Page 3 - About Meta Tags

The thing with content is that that is has to be both SEO-friendly as well as well-written. I think that you are confusing the Meta description with the actual site content.

The Meta description is used as a snippet in the SERPS. This snippet needs to be optimised by including relevant keywords for better rankings, but should also entice the user to clickthrough to the actual content.

When the user lands on the actual page, then the page content would then need to motivate the user to take the desired action, i.e. convert.

The Meta description and the page content is usually different if the webmaster has gone through the process of writing unique descriptions for each of his pages, otherwise this Meta description would then be a snippet of the actual page content, although it would not necessarily entice users to land on the page via the SERPs.

However, my main point is that content should never be written primarily for search engines, they need to understand that there are people out there that need to be fed quality content and that the competition is a click away.

Metas DO NOT influence rankings.......

If you want to improve your search engine indexing so, only meta tag is enough to concentrate.

You have to concentrate on many other on page optimizing factors.

When will your create your meta tag - Just focus on following point.

1. It must be relevant to your web sites.

2. Long or Short title - Doesn't matter - But must be descriptive - so user can understand about your web site.

Best Luck For That -----

That's a nice hypothesis...

I love to see your source data to confirm your findings... unless of course your findings are based purely on conjecture.

How did you determine what was positive impacts based purely on the Meta Description?

MY POINT: Your "guesses" are certainly good enough for you... but as "ADVICE" for others to follow, don't you think they deserve something more than conjecture?

...or #3 don't include at all.

I've produced very credible evidence to support my position, I've yet to see any from detractors. And my position is hardly revolutionary, using your keyword in your page Title WILL affect your rankings as it's one of the Google search algo signals, and your SERP snippet WILL have an effect on click-throughs, it doesn't take much testing to prove that.

Whilst some people are contributing positively to this thread, I guess some people are just better at blowing hot air and trolling than actually discussing subjects and would rather grab any perceived opportunity to put someone down than be constructive open minded and helpful. But then that's what trolls do, it's their nature I guess.

As for what constitutes good advice or not, people in glass houses...............

When you say about SERP snippet, you mean the snippet of text under the title, where the meta description usually goes?

If you are indeed speaking about the meta description or snippet.
If it's so easy to prove it will effect click throughs, where is your or anyone else's proof you speak of?

Where..? I trust half of what I read, and a quarter of what I hear... unless you have credible data that you produced to show... [what no one else can show] that would be mind-boggling... but just saying Meta Description improves CTR without demonstrating it or showing "by how much" ... that's a bogus claim... if CTR increases with Meta Descriptions then we most certainly can see CTR decreases by removing them... and yet again... by how much?

How do you determine the difference between natural trends in traffic and whether or not the description impacted at all?

For those that "assume" Meta Tags improve CTR it's oh so simple to prove... but the moment you actually attempt to test it... it isn't so simple anymore.



http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35264



hmmm... Google suggests Meta Description improve CTR but it isn't as simple as that...

If you cannot prove this to any degree of certainty... how much of an improvement did it really make?

If you spill a drop of gas on the ground is it really worth the effort to recover it and put it in the tank? [that's a Meta Description improvement... in theory it sounds GREAT... but in practical application under scrutiny it doesn't hold water].



Title Element is not a Meta Tag... since this thread is about Meta Tags we can assume the discussion is limited to them.

As for the "WILL" part - that's suggests you can see this change... e.g. add Meta Description increased CTR, removed decreased CTR...

I haven't seen any data on this... e.g. no testing doesn't mean it's been tested.



If you like using Meta Tags... that great... but as you said "it doesn't take much testing to prove that."... so why haven't you? ...why do you only show stuff that you didn't do... and not one of them shows:

1. actual rank improvements

2. actual CTR improvements

Surely if these are your claims then your credible evidence would at least show data to support these claims as oppose to just being stuff that doesn't actually comment on #1 & #2.

Well my theory is based on my years of experience as a SEO and not purely guesswork. However, whether or not others take what I say as advice,do so at their own risk.

I would like to see data that disproves my theory though.

You want someone else to show the data for your own theory?

Where do we start?

Well I guess we need access to your analystics to start with...

"YEARS" of experience - doesn't that imply you've been using Meta Tags for years "without questioning their validity"?

The problem with showing "data" for your theory is this... it's tends to produce a null... you can't see increases in CTR that are only affected by Meta Description.... so all data yours or mine would show "inconclusive results"... and you base your theory on being "inclusive" and me... I said if you can't really prove something... how beneficial can it really be?

But the bottomline here is this... you're not offering qualified advice... you offering people inclusive theories based on what use to be with your years of experience.

If you like using Meta Tags I'm happy for you... but here in this forum your years of experience says "you're a dinosaur that's too scare to change to meet presence day challenges"...

All joking aside... misinformation isn't funny.

Who is dinosaur?

HI, there,

Well meta tags shows the brief info about ur website , so thats the advantage ucan consider this

thanks

First of all, meta tags includes Keywords and Description both, where Keywords will do nothing.
I think you mean "Meta Description shows the brief info about website in search result", if I am right then I must tell you
The best suitable textual part of your content will be shown in search result. It can be or can't be your meta description.

Choose the related keywords, collect them and make phrase skillfully. Keep the apposite keywords density in your page.

Thanks I learn't a new word..... "apposite: highly pertinent or appropriate"...

But keyword density is not relivent to SERPs........