Prepaid Pay Per Click Campaigns - Wisdek

Sorry if this is a common scam but I only deal in organic optimization and I got a call from a company that says they guarantee me top rankings in adwords for a list of very competitive keywords and I wanted to research it a bit.

I researched on google trends and the amount Google suggests for top 3 rankings in adwords was 20-30 times what this company was offering to give me. They told me it's because they buy $150,000,000 worth of keywords so Google gives them discounts.

I know there is a 99% chance this is a scam but can anyone tell me if they ever dealt with this company:

www (dot) wisdek (dot) com

Summary:

They told me I would get 10 very competitive keywords with unlimited clicks for $200 a month. Google says it would cost $5,000+ a day (trends estimate) if I were to purchase these directly.

Any thoughts?

SCAM MY FRIEND DONT TELL HIM EVEN YOUR NAME
well you can if you want, traffic is not free or dirt cheap you pay for what you get and people cannot prebuy keywords from google at discount rates, no one owns keywords you bid on them and what you bid determines your ranking along with relevancy, if you site is beyond relevant than everyone else bidding on the same keywords, you can be #1 placement and be paying 15 cents per click while #2 - 5 are paying 20 cents, its their new relevancy update been out for a few months. But be careful on false promises, if it sounds too good to be true, it more than likely is, ... unless its a winning lotto ticket

Yes, There's Thoughts, i'm someone who's been dealing with Wisdek for a long time now, Get on wisdek (dot) com view the demo, see how this people work before u just give out opinions that are wrong, u can ask any company that's advertising with wisdek, if they gave u any complain, then u have right to write whatever, U Can say its too good to be true, and thats because this people know how to do business right, But to say its a scam, it needs research atleast. and think wide, do u think if its a scam, it'd have last for 10 years so far????? i dont think so..

For someone to say that they buy PREPAID KEYWORDS FROM GOOGLE IS A SCAM no matter how you look at it because GOOGLE DOES NOT ALLOW THAT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AS DO NO OTHER SEARCH ENGINES ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET. And also I did before I wrote that msg, watch their demo and I did again after your post in case i did miss something. But " Wisdek" was called a scam by me because of
1- He said he got a phone call saying he can get keywords discounted by Wisdek because they buy keywords in bulk( bold face lie, that alone would not make me do biz with them)
2- THEIR ONLY GUARANTEE is that you will be number 1 for any search on google, My mother can accomplish this as well by just bidding the highest possible amount for that keyword, so thats their promise basically well bid the highest on every keyword you have and you will be number 1, this can be accomplished with no effort on their end whatsoever, ya youll be number 1 but it will cost you a joke amount of money and MORE THAN LIKELY you will not convert.
3- that is the only promise, and bragging rights for their company( well get you #1 in search, not natural, by bidding the highest possible amount)
4 - they show NO sites they currently do business with and they back up their claims with absolutely nothing


They may not be an "official scam" you will be #1 in search, but at a cost that is completely unfeasible for any busienss model and you will be locked in for a "term" which could be anywhere from 3 months to a year where as you cannot back out

Hi My name is alex, I am one of the account managers for wisdek, I am google certified individual (for anyone who is interested my certification id is (609-514-0192 ).

I think before you brand something as scam you should do more research. Yes wisdek places customers on top of the first page in google (all you guys that are doing pay per click on the large volume know that the price you pay per click is lower then some newbie, because how we do the ad how we bid for the ad how we make relative the ad how we disconnect fraudulent clicks etc..) All our customers pay as fixed price and for every minute that they are down we give them double the down time. Most of the people who use our services have limited experience in adwords, they are blowing money on things that dont convert and on sponsored sites. Our experience allows us to remove the headache from their minds. As to not putting customer list on our site well... we done that before and our customers were bombarded with seo adwords and other artists who cant get customers themselves and try to grub them from someone else.

If anyone has any questions I will gladly answer

I did do research,I looked at your business model and it is a joke, ALL your company says is that well pay the most for the keywords you want and you will be number 1, this model involves NO WORK whatsoever on your end and ends up costing the customer a ton, you also stated they are locked in for terms and you stated that clients actually have to prepay for their accounts which is just as pathetic as everything else i stated. And the downtime thing you stated is the only 1 GOOd thing i can think of, BUT YOU SAY THAT NOWHERE ON YOUR SITE so i question that as well. You have not helped your argument and id not be suprised if that is your post above as well since " he" signed up yesterday
What youve stated:
So what your saying is #1 whoever called the man above LIED Completely about prepaid keywords as a pitch, and when you are talking about getting keywords for cheaper than everyone else becuase of how you bid??? how many different ways can you bid on a keyword, you click it you type .20 etc. no different ways to bid, and regarding ad copy getting you cheaper clicks, this is true to some extent id say this has 10 percent out of 100 to do with getting cheaper clicks, the other 90 is your RELEVANT KEYWORDS, RELEVANT CONTENT, LANDING PAGE QUALITY, and OVERALL RELEVANCE. and what customer list are you talking about? but so far you hold no clout by any of your statementsm,

First introduce yourself,

I just love passion backed up by anonymity. Second of all, our company does not offer any keyfraisis of you choice (were did you do your so called research?) we target specific businesses with specific set of fraises were we can make a difference. As to a sales rep i think it's a misunderstanding. We do our research estimate a cost and give customers a flat rate. And if we are off (sometimes google estimates are pain in the *** and we are off) we eat the loss ourselves. as to not listing guarantees on our site our guarantee is given in the agreement (which is a legal document and fully binding) also we record all most conversation that our sales guys have (we monitor to make sure they don't lie to customers and to increase the level of customer service) yes we had instances were customers were misinformed, sales reps were warned and i believe fired a few times.

I dont need to introduce myself to you, and dont use that as the reason why no one should listen to me. Your flat rate is pathetic, even more so if you use the google estimated cost calculator ( horribly over inflated), your "legally binding contract is sad as well, all it does it make sure that the purchaser( your client) must pay at all costs no matter what happens the predetermined rate must be paid in full. And you dont monitor your reps enough considering the gentlemen up top was told a bold face lie. Your guarantee in your agreement is trash, all it claims is that you will be #1 in PAID search, which again means all you have to do is bid the max. And What the heck is a "FRAISE" , I FEEL HORRIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHOSE AD COPY YOU WRITE!!

i signed a contract for 1 month of service for $300. I paid with credit card. I began emailing them immediately because the text that came up when my company showed up, was bad english and not what we agreed upon. Then the ranking started failing altogether, to where I wouldnt show up at all. I complained thru email, they ignored me, finally the month was almost up, so I gave up.

Fast forward 8 months. I realize that they have been hitting my credit card each month for 8 months. I call them and get their supervisor, explain my problem, forward my 30day contract and tell them they owe me $2,400. They say "you should have told us sooner that your card was being charged, it is your fault for not notifying us" Okay, so you improperly bill me, and becasue my corporate Amex usually has 100 grand a month or more of small charges, and I missed your charges, its my fault?

Oh, and by the way, they dont bill amex under the name Wisdek, they use some reallly generic name like "business services" so that people like me that are busy will think it is something else. THAT MAKES THEM A SCAM.

I will say, they did call back and try to resolve. You know what their offer was? Two months of continuing service. Ok, more bad service for free that I didnt order in the first place..

Not to mention, I checked the keywords they offered by googling myself every few months, and I didnt show up any of those times.

So, basically, I got screwed out of $2,400.00, I will have to take them to court..

Does anyone know how to get to a company that is in Canada, and solicits over the phone to the US?

We signed up for a one-month trial with Wisdek, at first they say they are Google and then during the pitch say they sell the sponsored ads at the top for Google. The Wisdek Sales Guy Chester Troy was very persistent getting us to try it out. We had the demo where our ad showed up at the top and we were told we would always be up there.

We tried it out, it was supposed to be for one month and Chester would call back to follow up. During the month we checked several times on our office computers to see if we had been posted yet and it wasn't showing up. When Chester Troy did follow-up we let him know that it wasn't showing up on any of our office computers and our tracking software wasn't showing any hits to the website from this ad. At this time we ask to cancel any further service. Chester said he was going to look into why we couldn't see the ad on any of the computers and get back with us. A couple weeks later after we had sent in an email canceling the service, Chester followed up again, this time asking why were canceling. Again we stated that nothing was showing up and we weren't getting the hits and we wanted to cancel.

Fast forward a few months...our accountant asked about a monthly charge from a company called "Business Development." Turns out it was Wisdek and they were still billing us....

After emailing copies of our cancellation, the Wisdek Manager called up offering a settlement. A settlement? We did exactly what they had asked. I could see a settlement if we had had some results and we didn’t cancel, we had zero hits from this ad. Not only that but they said the number we used to call Chester Troy was wrong, we would not have reached him at that number because he was in another country. But the manager wasn’t really sure of that since Chester was either no longer with the company or moved to a different department.

Since there’s two of us on here, I’m sure there’s a lot more they’ve done this too…..

Wisdek Corp.

My name is Josh Schneider. I am one of the marketing managers here at Wisdek. In the 5 years working for different online companies, there has always been those who do not agree with how things are done or are not able to receive certain services. When any individual attacks a company, its always important to have all the facts. I noticed from this blog that the individual in this case contacted a "Google Sales Rep." A sales rep. is in sales. This means that they are only focused on getting the sale, keeping the customer, no matter what, whether or not they are aware of other companies that can provide similar or even a stress free products.

These are some of our best clients with testimonials:

"Looking for instant business? Wisdek will get it for you. About 20% of our business now comes directly from Wisdek Google advertising. These are the "instant gratification" type customers. These people see a need; jump on Google and schedule something with the first person they find to speak to. Wisdek made it possible that we would be found first by our customers. They search, find us on top (thanks to Wisdek ), call and schedule our services. Our call volume has increased by 10% and our workload 20% since joining up with Wisdek. Excellent source of instant business."

Charlie, Eastern Refinishing

"Guys, you are awesome! I owe 50% of my business to you now, phone just doesn't stop ringing! Thank you, now I know what "marketing" means, too!!"

Azriel, GOLD4CASH (Feel Free to contact him!)

...I was expecting a 5-10% increase in business, how shocked I was to find a increase of 30%. This translated to an increase in revenue of over $100,000 per year. I am going to be using your services indefinitely. This cultural phenomenon of " Google it" has been wonderful as we ride the wave of consumers from "brick and mortar" to "click and order". Thanks for helping our 20 year old company resurface as alive and vibrant and relevant to the consumers needs. Please feel free to use me as a reference anytime. Again from Myself and my Family Thank-you.

Your gratefully,
Tim Miller, Complete Lock Service

I am signing new clients almost every day! All because of Google and Wisdek Corp. My potential clients search for legal help when they need it, I get the best pre-qualified leads. Most people schedule appointments right away!

Alexander O, Large Settlement Lawyers

...Wisdek has exceeded my expectations and our business continues to grow due to the ranking we have on Google! To all the staff at Wisdek "Thank You". Your life long customer,

Paul Kludac, Prime Time Limo Chicago

You may contact these individuals to find out more or contact me directly at jschneider at wisdek dot com

I am here to answer any and all questions related to this post or our services.

Best Regards,
Josh Schneider
Marketing Manager
Wisdek Corp.

[QUOTE=joshwisdek]Wisdek Corp.

My name is Josh Schneider. I am one of the marketing managers here at Wisdek. In the 5 years working for different online companies, there has always been those who do not agree with how things are done or are not able to receive certain services. When any individual attacks a company, its always important to have all the facts. I noticed from this blog that the individual in this case contacted a "Google Sales Rep." A sales rep. is in sales. This means that they are only focused on getting the sale, keeping the customer, no matter what, whether or not they are aware of other companies that can provide similar or even a stress free products.

Josh your post doesn't make a lot of sense. In addition to not being able to find the post with "Google Sales Rep" in it, your missing the spirit of this thread which seems to be the misrepresentations from Wisdek. Instead of addressing the issues presented here your pointing your finger at your customers. What are the facts? Why are customers being billed after they cancel? Why aren't you compensating customers that have serious downtime issues?

Your co-worker Alex also states that conversations are recorded in the post above. This is also not true, in our dealings with another Wisdek Manager it was stated that only customer service was monitored, not the "sales" guys. If this was true it would be easy to look up the records to confirm our cancellation and unhappiness with not seeing our company listed on our computers.

It's easy to take the high road and give the everyone loves us, there's nothing you can do, we're a multimillion dollar company speech. Karma gets passed around....

Hi Guys,

Check out this thread in Google's AdWords Help group! You will see were a Google employee (AdWordsPro) speaks up about the company in question.

http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-help-advanced/browse_thread/thread/665df31d23cb8fda/a4858883a3f1a2f5

I tried this, paid for the first three months. Initially, it worked fine. Within one week, I no longer saw my ad on google's front page. Customer service at Wisdek claimed it was because I searched the key works too many times from the same computer.
Ultimately, they sent me to a link to view the ad. However, it never showed up on any comuter from which I googled.
After complaining, the ad appeared again consistently for about 1 week. After that week, it no longer appeared on google's front page. I have requested a refund or explanation and have not received eithe. I am not very internet marketign savvy and feel pretty stupid for falling for this.