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Old April 30th, 2006, 10:45 AM
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Hello guys this is my 1st post here after reading the forum for some time now.

I am coming from a European country – Greece and I’ve recently started studying adsense as an innovative way of getting some money to cover my hosting and that’s it. I don’t really have the energy at this point to study 3000 pdf’s and optimize heavily, while I judge at some point I will.

Now I started just 2 weeks ago with a site, where I write about a theme I know pretty well and that’s about gym training routines etc. I maintain a forum in the Greek language in the same theme and I have a crowd of about 2000 members.

Now I use the url of that site to my signature and since I am the chief moderator and I have about 3800 posts over the past two years that link comes up fairly often when someone browse the threads in my forum.

Since I have just submitted my site to Google and yahoo and I haven’t use any fast SEO tricks/link exchange etc, I judge that whatever traffic I get is from my forums members that enjoy reading some of my stuff in that site. Thing is that while I was aiming for maybe $20 bucks a month I know get around $10 a day! Don’t get me wrong I wont throw extra income on the street for nothing and I am welcoming it, however when I checked my logs for the website and got a feeling on my visitors, I saw a lot of visitors for an un-indexed website around 170 a day that were unique different IP’s and numerous hosts they were all but maybe 4 of Greek origin. Meaning that their ISP’s were Greek their IP’s were Greek.

Now in my mind I know that the reason I get only Greek visitors is because my forum is in the Greek language and deals with Greek people, and that the ad clicking is due to the fact that they see things that we don’t have in Greece, such as certain herbal supplemental and training equipment. And since I have NOT asked implied directed anyone to click on the ads, I am sure they just see stuff they haven’t see and go to have a look and probably convert.

Now my question is this: Should I be worried that Google may not like the fact the 98% of the clicks on my site is Greek and ban me? I don’t get like 3000 clicks from the same IP maybe an average 2 per IP but should I take steps to prevent that? I don’t want to get banned for nothing.

Thanks for your time,

MP

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Hello guys this is my 1st post here after reading the forum for some time now.

I am coming from a European country – Greece and I’ve recently started studying adsense as an innovative way of getting some money to cover my hosting and that’s it. I don’t really have the energy at this point to study 3000 pdf’s and optimize heavily, while I judge at some point I will.

Now I started just 2 weeks ago with a site, where I write about a theme I know pretty well and that’s about gym training routines etc. I maintain a forum in the Greek language in the same theme and I have a crowd of about 2000 members.

Now I use the url of that site to my signature and since I am the chief moderator and I have about 3800 posts over the past two years that link comes up fairly often when someone browse the threads in my forum.

Since I have just submitted my site to Google and yahoo and I haven’t use any fast SEO tricks/link exchange etc, I judge that whatever traffic I get is from my forums members that enjoy reading some of my stuff in that site. Thing is that while I was aiming for maybe $20 bucks a month I know get around $10 a day! Don’t get me wrong I wont throw extra income on the street for nothing and I am welcoming it, however when I checked my logs for the website and got a feeling on my visitors, I saw a lot of visitors for an un-indexed website around 170 a day that were unique different IP’s and numerous hosts they were all but maybe 4 of Greek origin. Meaning that their ISP’s were Greek their IP’s were Greek.

Now in my mind I know that the reason I get only Greek visitors is because my forum is in the Greek language and deals with Greek people, and that the ad clicking is due to the fact that they see things that we don’t have in Greece, such as certain herbal supplemental and training equipment. And since I have NOT asked implied directed anyone to click on the ads, I am sure they just see stuff they haven’t see and go to have a look and probably convert.

Now my question is this: Should I be worried that Google may not like the fact the 98% of the clicks on my site is Greek and ban me? I don’t get like 3000 clicks from the same IP maybe an average 2 per IP but should I take steps to prevent that? I don’t want to get banned for nothing.

Thanks for your time,

MP


Well first difficult to answer... in general these are not coming from your IP so fraud on your part isn't a big issue.

The reason that it is difficult to answer as CTR is known to you, Google, and to some extent the ad owner, conversion of sale is possibly known to Google and the ad owner - so while you might believe they may see something awry - it could be a gold mine to the ad owner. [probably not a gold mine but if conversions are occurring that's why the ad owner is advertising so then no problem what-so-ever].

Recommend keeping an eye on your log status and if it truly get unreasonable - better to ad a special page for forum refferals that doesn't have adsense on it - a "look see" to your website usually doesn't go far into investigating into a site.

Additionally forum links don't really add much to helping ranks so removing it won't hurt neither.

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Well first difficult to answer... in general these are not coming from your IP so fraud on your part isn't a big issue.

The reason that it is difficult to answer as CTR is known to you, Google, and to some extent the ad owner, conversion of sale is possibly known to Google and the ad owner - so while you might believe they may see something awry - it could be a gold mine to the ad owner. [probably not a gold mine but if conversions are occurring that's why the ad owner is advertising so then no problem what-so-ever].

Recommend keeping an eye on your log status and if it truly get unreasonable - better to ad a special page for forum refferals that doesn't have adsense on it - a "look see" to your website usually doesn't go far into investigating into a site.

Additionally forum links don't really add much to helping ranks so removing it won't hurt neither.


Thanks for the answer fathor, so you mean I should create like a land page with an "enter" as index to avoid this? I was mostly afraid that Google wont like seeing the majority of the clicks to be coming from a single country as Greece.

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Thanks for the answer fathor, so you mean I should create like a land page with an "enter" as index to avoid this?


yes - but don't believe the rate you suggested is overly bad and some may indeed convert...

Google itself won't have a problem at all - unless the ad owner made a case for fraud.

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I was mostly afraid that Google wont like seeing the majority of the clicks to be coming from a single country as Greece.


Admittedly it would seem quite unusual - but at the same time the ad owner can exclude sites from carrying their ads so the ball is in their court IMHO.
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Thank's again fathom, I have a ctr of about %25 and I want to try and split them someway dividing into different sections, like one site for herbal one for routines, one for equipment. Will that help my situation about same country traffic any you think?

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