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has anyone any experience with adwatcher? (adwatcher dot com)

what experience have you guys had with clickfraud software.

Finding cf is one thing, getting the SE's to refund your money is another.

I wouldn't bother with it unless your spending at least $3000-$4000 a month. And even so its not worth the expenditure and the time it takes from you to chase the SE's and fight them for a refund.

I control the equivelant of close to a half million per month in ppc revenue, and that is my honest opinion.

Its sad, but its the truth.

ps. I just read through their "Click Fraud Refund" manual, (wish I hadn't now because I had to my email address), but it tells you the process you must go through. Read it and you'll see exactly what I said above is the case.

Read THIS PDF FILE . Extremely in-depth and informative regarding click fraud

Hi

Can any one tell me how to start Site Analysis .. Researches and all

This is so true.

Recently, I noticed that I was getting more traffic from uk.yahoo for a certain keyword than I was from the US yahoo for the same keyword. This was strange since I could never see my site's ad in UK yahoo results but I could see it up there everytime in the US yahoo. I could also trace the US clicks through to orders but I could not trace a single order through to the UK clicks.

So I went through my server logs on the UK sites going way back - sure enough - no referals from uk.yahoo for my keyword but a ton from searchadv.com. Of course these guys don't even have a web site because they hide behind

Check the business model. It's the old 'affiliate fraud' model. You put a search box on your website etc etc.

Going through the logs month after month I see that each month features a different set of affiliates and their spamming script systematically works though the same top keywords on a rotational basis, presumably accoounting for appropriate click ratios.

Try and contact these guys at
yahoo returns the mail.

How shady is that?

Here's an example of one affiliate who robbed me...



So I cut out about 6 weeks of logs and filed a complaint with yahoo. My annual spend is more 5 figures than your 6 but then again this is my money!

Of course yahoo must know that this is a massive click fraud conspiracy. These guys are shysters. Effectively, they are conspiring with searchadv.com (my guess is they own them - perhaps indirectly - even by yahoo execs sub-rosa deals) to defraud advertisers. That's a serious matter. It's not just civil - it's criminal.

So what happened to the complaint - how much of the thousands of £ I've lost might I recover? (I know you're all dying to know)

Well, I got a canned response sidestepping the whole issue of searchadv conspiracy, but acknokwledging that there had been suspicious clicks during the 6 week period and in fact I was entitled to a refund.

How about £1.57!

I believe that's yahoospeak for f*** o**

I'm not whining here so spare me the 'You should have checked you logs earlier blah, blah' (yeh... give me the time please) I'm just mad as h*** at yahoo.

I would recommend taking a look at http://www.AdTrackerReviews.com. They have done a lot of reasearch on AdWatcher and have spent a lot of time. They also ranked them among their closest competition.

Beware Adwatcher has destroyed my business and if you trust them they will inevitably destroy yours too. On August 28th of this year I became concerned as my sales had plummeted the trend began 4 days earlier, I was informed by a friend that my pay per click advertisements were not functioning and that was when my nightmare began I realized that the URL redirect links that Adwatcher uses were not redirecting any of my pay per click advertisements to my home page, on Google alone we lost over $8000.00 wasted advertising, to say the least it was catastrophic. The scariest part was trying to fathom how long it would have taken the Adwatcher personnel to figure out what was happening had I not caught on to what was happening. When I informed Adwatcher what was happening and asked them to remit compensation for their negligence this was the reply I received from their director of operations Boris Mordkovich:

Dear Nick,

My name is Boris Mordkovich and I'm the Director of Operations at AdWatcher.com.

I wanted to contact you regarding what has happened in the beginning of the week with your account. I apologize for what has occurred and for the loss that you suffered as a result of that. And we certainly want to make it up to you in every way that we can.

Unfortunately, we won't be able to reimburse for your advertising expenses. We simply don't have that kind of money available for that. And as we do outline in the terms of service that every new client has to agree to before signing up, our liability is limited to the cost of AdWatcher service.

However, as I mentioned, we do want to try to make this right.

First, we will refund the last 3 months of service costs and will offer the AdWatcher account to you free of charge for the next year (if you still wish to use it). We can also offer you a free year of service for our AdScientist tool - which can help you manage your search engine bids automatically.

Second of all, if you are interested, we can refer you to one of our expert consulting partners to go over your campaigns and help you improve your conversion rates further. We would cover the fees incurred by that. While it won't make up for your loss, it will help you fine tune your campaigns for the future and will lower your acquisition costs.

Nick, as I mentioned earlier, we do want to do everything we can to help you recover from this. There are certain limits to what we can offer, but we'll do as much as we can.


All they could offer me after literally tossing my business off a cliff was this pathetic apology and and some band aid compensation as if we would ever trust them again after what happened. The result has been catastrophic I would strongly advise anyone who currently uses them or is thinking of using them to think twice as they assume absolutely no accountability for their negligence. We trusted Adwatcher with the most important aspect of our companies existence as the majority of our revenue is driven through pay per click advertising and they not only dropped the ball they were too stupid to realize it or to take accountability for the damages we have incurred due to their negligence. I cannot believe that a company which assumes the responsibility which they do did not have a single safeguard in place to prevent something like this from happening. Our decision to use this company has been a regrettable all companies make mistakes however the good ones take accountability for them they don't hide behind some disclaimer statement that dissolves them of negligence. The sad part is that these guys actually think that this is going to hold up in court, if this were the case then we wouldn't need lawyers would we everyone could just write a disclaimer that says hey we can do whatever the **** we want and assume no responsibility for it.



QUOTE=oasis-k]has anyone any experience with adwatcher? (adwatcher dot com)

what experience have you guys had with clickfraud software.[/QUOTE]

Are you going to take them to court?

If I had a nickel for every time I attempted to "Recoup" $$$'s lost via CF, I'd being doing pretty well....

Not saying that it doesn't happen w/ the Top 3 PPC programs, but simply stay away from second or third tier PPC companies... As you will simply be chasing your tail for days "Collecting all the Info. They Require" w/ respect to CF.... refunds....etc... I don't care what reports some CF programs can generate...., you are going to find it very difficult to get money back from most PPC Companies/Search Engines...

Simply stated = they are in the business of making/taking money....not giving it back for CF.... Sad but true....

However, if you are a well known CF "Hound," and manage several thousand dollars per week/month - and also know a "Particular" high-up company rep....from the get-go = your chances of getting some funds back might be better....

Good luck...

Jready....

Wow!

It will work better for me.
Thanks!

This is Matt Alland, the new Business Development Manager at AdWatcher. I’d like to mention that we take each of our client’s needs seriously, and that our own success relies fully on the success of our clients. If a problem or confusion does arise we encourage you to contact us. I’d be happy to answer any questions, my email is matt@adwatcher.com or we can be reached via phone at 1-800-543-9579.