Pay Per Click
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsPay Per Click Search EnginesPay Per Click

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old July 1st, 2008, 07:05 AM
new_seo's Avatar
new_seo new_seo is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: INDIA!!
Posts: 1,841 new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 4 Days 17 h 24 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 24
Send a message via Google Talk to new_seo Send a message via Skype to new_seo
A Question about adjustment in PPC Campaign

Hello Friends,
Hope every body doing fine.

I have a question about PPC Campaign.

I am handling a PPC Campaign for one of my client's site. Few keywords are doing well. Problem for few other keywords where Impressions are high, but CTR and Conversion are low.

In my opinion:

1. Either my bid is low and that's why the ad is not coming in a noticeable place

2. Or ad copy is failed to attract visitors.

I have increased the bid and make some changes in the ad copy.

Am I in the right track? Waiting for your opinions.

The problem is with 6 keywords, but as I have some confusion I just increased bid for few of them.

Regards
new_seo

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old July 1st, 2008, 07:37 AM
full house's Avatar
full house full house is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Philippines
Posts: 812 full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 15 h 42 m 15 sec
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 4
Send a message via Yahoo to full house Send a message via Google Talk to full house
I'm not good in PPC or adwords but I know few things about it! Maybe its a wrong choice of keywords.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM
new_seo's Avatar
new_seo new_seo is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: INDIA!!
Posts: 1,841 new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 4 Days 17 h 24 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 24
Send a message via Google Talk to new_seo Send a message via Skype to new_seo
Well I should mention this, that I don't think that keyword selection is a problem here.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old July 1st, 2008, 08:29 AM
tstolber's Avatar
tstolber tstolber is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Frequenter (2500 - 2999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 2,789 tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)tstolber User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 18 h 37 m 2 sec
Reputation Power: 29
Send a message via MSN to tstolber Send a message via Google Talk to tstolber Send a message via Skype to tstolber
Keyword selection and targetting wouldn't effect CTR much - it would effect bounce and conversion rates one the click happened.

I would suggest first of all adjusting your copy. You have the otpion of implementing add rotations.

Try various types, information v promotional, see what works a get an idea of audience sensitivity. Once you have experiamented with this, then start uping your bid slightly and seeing what works.

Its very important to see what happens after the click too. Look at the performance of your PPC landing page (if you have a specific one).

If you have a landing page that only converts to 33% of its potential then you are wasting the clicks tha you do get. You can find that by improving your landing pages you maximise the value of your PPC click through traffic.

Its all about, little tweaks, see what works, little tweaks - continual improvement.

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 1st, 2008, 08:40 AM
new_seo's Avatar
new_seo new_seo is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: INDIA!!
Posts: 1,841 new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 4 Days 17 h 24 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 24
Send a message via Google Talk to new_seo Send a message via Skype to new_seo
Quote:
Originally Posted by tstolber
Keyword selection and targetting wouldn't effect CTR much - it would effect bounce and conversion rates one the click happened.

I would suggest first of all adjusting your copy. You have the otpion of implementing add rotations.

Try various types, information v promotional, see what works a get an idea of audience sensitivity. Once you have experiamented with this, then start uping your bid slightly and seeing what works.

Its very important to see what happens after the click too. Look at the performance of your PPC landing page (if you have a specific one).

If you have a landing page that only converts to 33% of its potential then you are wasting the clicks tha you do get. You can find that by improving your landing pages you maximise the value of your PPC click through traffic.

Its all about, little tweaks, see what works, little tweaks - continual improvement.

Well thanks for your nice explanation.
I have 3 different ad copies with different variations. 2 of them convert below 20% and I made changes in those.
Are you suggesting not to increase the bid amount right now and just to observe the effect after changing ad copy variations?

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 2nd, 2008, 12:25 AM
seostew's Avatar
seostew seostew is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dallas
Posts: 269 seostew User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)seostew User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)seostew User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)seostew User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 Days 6 h 8 m 34 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Send a message via AIM to seostew Send a message via Yahoo to seostew
If you are buying Broad match keywords, you probably need to add more negative keywords. Also, look at your Search Query Report to see what new Auto Match (Extended Match) keywords Google has decided to trigger your ads by. Even better, look at the raw query strings and you'll be very surprised.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 2nd, 2008, 01:14 AM
new_seo's Avatar
new_seo new_seo is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: INDIA!!
Posts: 1,841 new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level)new_seo User rank is Sergeant Major (2000 - 5000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 4 Days 17 h 24 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 24
Send a message via Google Talk to new_seo Send a message via Skype to new_seo
Quote:
Originally Posted by seostew
If you are buying Broad match keywords, you probably need to add more negative keywords. Also, look at your Search Query Report to see what new Auto Match (Extended Match) keywords Google has decided to trigger your ads by. Even better, look at the raw query strings and you'll be very surprised.

Thank you for your explanation. I am using exact match keywords.
Any different suggestions for that?

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old July 3rd, 2008, 06:04 PM
payperclick.sk payperclick.sk is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
Posts: 2 payperclick.sk User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 38 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Wrong strategy

Quote:
Originally Posted by new_seo
Hello Friends,
Hope every body doing fine.

I have a question about PPC Campaign.

I am handling a PPC Campaign for one of my client's site. Few keywords are doing well. Problem for few other keywords where Impressions are high, but CTR and Conversion are low.

In my opinion:

1. Either my bid is low and that's why the ad is not coming in a noticeable place

2. Or ad copy is failed to attract visitors.

I have increased the bid and make some changes in the ad copy.

Am I in the right track? Waiting for your opinions.

The problem is with 6 keywords, but as I have some confusion I just increased bid for few of them.

Regards
new_seo


Generally it`s up on the keyword selection. But I say to my clients, you must have a strategy. It`s not enough to find the right words, and write a good ad headline, description and URL. You have to think about price policy before you start to advertise. If there is a competition, you have to get the first place (altought you don`t need it). If You do not have first position you loose you CTR just because you want to save. Finaly you have to bid higher CPC. But You will still have low CTR. And AdWords will remember it. So You will allways need to bit more when your competition bids higher price.
I have a client, who has generally 1-st position, he pays $0,2, his competition pays $0,6 for the same keyword, and he is still second. It is, because, he hasn`t good quality of ad headline and description, and he started with very low price.
You have to use this method:
1. Make a high quality Headline and description, where You use most of choosen keywords. I suggest to use tool Keyword Inserting. It will insert allways the word which is searched.
2. Choose just relevant keywords. For example, if you have an e-shop with electronics, create independent Ad Group with words about fridge and independent group with words about freeze. Maybe it looks, it isn`t important, but it is. If somebody is searching a freeze, he is searching a freeze and not fridge.
3. Start your campaign with higher price as you want finaly bid. You need to be on eyes and to be clicked to get a good CTR. If Your ads will have good quality, your real price will decrease, but your CTR will be stable.
4. When your ad text has goog CTR, DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING on IT.
For demonstration of quality of my client:
I use about 6.000 broad match keywords, I am advertising about 1 month and my average CTR is about 11%. I started with price $0,5, but the real price is now 0,2 and my average position is still 1,8.

payperclick.sk

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old July 3rd, 2008, 07:35 PM
EGOL's Avatar
EGOL EGOL is offline
EGOL
Click here for more information.
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Snow belt.
Posts: 6,914 EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 2 Weeks 6 Days 11 h 34 m 41 sec
Reputation Power: 79
Write ten copies of the ad and let google find the best one.
__________________
* Its not the size of the dog in the fight that matters... it's the size of the fight in the dog.
* Free advice generally isn't worth much, but cheap advice is worth even less.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsPay Per Click Search EnginesPay Per Click > A Question about adjustment in PPC Campaign


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump



 Free IT White Papers!
 
How to Present Effectively Online
This white paper offers practical and actionable advice on the key steps that any presenter should consider as they plan and execute a Webinar or online meeting.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Open Source Security Myths
Open Source Software (OSS) is computer software whose source code is available to the general public with relaxed or non-existent intellectual property restrictions (or arrangement such as the public domain), and is usually developed with the input of many contributors.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Power and Cooling Capacity Management for Data Centers
This paper describes the principles for achieving power and cooling capacity management.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Scalable, Fault-Tolerant NAS for Oracle - The Next Generation
For several years NAS has been evolving as a storage alternative for Oracle databases, and for good reason: NAS is quite often the simplest, most cost-effective storage approach for Oracle. Learn about the benefits that HP's approach to scalable NAS brings to Oracle environments in this comprehensive white paper.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Understanding Web Application Security Challenges
This white paper discusses many common threats and preventive measures for Web application security, and explains what you can do to help protect your organization.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support |