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Old August 31st, 2007, 04:07 AM
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Question Web directory submission!

Web directory submission!

I've started to make SEO for our Web Design Company Cratima
and one of the problems I am confronting with is that there is
a fee difference between different web directories on the web.

I can submit our site to free web directories, reciprocal link directories,
and paid directories.

Now, my question is: is there really a difference between this submissions?
I mean, does Google index your site depending on the amount of money you pay a web directory site? Or do this paid web directories offer services that help Google index your site better?

I'm looking forward for your replies, thanks !

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Old August 31st, 2007, 05:14 AM
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A useful but very crude tool in deciding what make a good directory is the visible PR on the page you will be recieving the link from (Not the homepage of the directory.).

Generally you will find that apart from a few exceptions high pr directories are pay directories. We generally submit to the 20 of the top paid directories to a cost of about $1400, and then have a list of 600 free directories that we submit to as and when starting with the high PR ones first.

What will probably be more use to you are niche directories relevant to your industry find and submit to these they will have alot more effect on the ranking on the keyword you are after.

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Many directories allow free submission. Some are paid. The Benchmark for submissions can be Google PR.

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I generally submit to top 5 directories in the free submission range. That fetches me good result. I dont think PR is a factor. When you are paying to get listed in a directory try to calculate the ROI for it. There nothing such as a higher paid directory will give you the best possible result.

You do not to submit your site to Google. If you have incoming links from any site .. that will help Google crawl your pages.

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Old August 31st, 2007, 05:25 AM
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Now, my question is: is there really a difference between this submissions?
I mean, does Google index your site depending on the amount !
lol... what a question.. Do you really think people pay hundreds of dollards for a directory that is worth the same as a free one...

The only free directories worth listing in are
1)dmoz
2) Govt directories
3) local directories
4) niche directories

that is actually quite a lot of useful directories.

the other useful ones cost something..
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Hi gazzahk - Yes, you are spot on. Free Directories serve the same purpose as that of a paid one. I find only one reason to submit to a Paid Directory and that is if that Directory can provide me with GOOD Referrals. I would actually do a ROI Calculation and then only go for the deal.

Yahoo charges $299 for its review for submission. Cratima do you think that any search engine will give you more preference than a person who has his site in DMOZ which is a free directory.

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Now, my question is: is there really a difference between this submissions?
I mean, does Google index your site depending on the amount of money you pay a web directory site? Or do this paid web directories offer services that help Google index your site better?



I am also new to this field and even I am focusing myself currently on directory submission for my company.
as you say that do google index your site depending on the ammount of money you pay a web directory site? I dont think so, when you pay any directory they review your site early or they give weightage to paid links they go through your submission and put your link in the category you selected fast as they could. but for free submissions some sites takes months to preview or go through your submission.

there prefrenceses are 1st paid submissions
2 nd submissions with reciprocal
and then 3 rd free submissions.

and as someone said its worth in investing in education and govtment sites as those link are more precious and google gives more value to those links. so try getting those links

this is what I learned through this forum and while submitting on some sites

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" there prefrenceses are 1st paid submissions
2 nd : submissions with reciprocal
and then 3 rd : free submissions."


I dont quite agree with your thought prasad5. A directory that requires a link back from your site is not at all a good directory.

You have to do a lot of research before submitting your site to any directory. You will find lots of directories but will hardly land up getting a few quality drectory. There are so many aspects like whether you will get traffic from the directory, whether the links are nofollwed, whether the directory lists any site or there ample evidence that the site takes care to differentiate between good and bad sites.

All these reasons and many more adds upto qualify as a good directory.

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I told you what I learned from the forum and while submitting to directories from one list of directories which I have. this are free directories.

thanks for warning me, may be the list which i have got must not be good. the criteria which i used is i check the pr of the site. if its above 3 i go for that directory.

can you give me some tips by which i could figure out between bad directory and good directory. and also suggest me some good list of directories.

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lol... what a question.. Do you really think people pay hundreds of dollards for a directory that is worth the same as a free one...

The only free directories worth listing in are
1)dmoz
2) Govt directories
3) local directories
4) niche directories

that is actually quite a lot of useful directories.

the other useful ones cost something..



Can you list some examples of Government Directories that allow linking?

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Old August 31st, 2007, 11:36 AM
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...can you give me some tips by which i could figure out between bad directory and good directory. and also suggest me some good list of directories.
When it comes to free directories the only bad ones are those which require reciprocal links.

If they don't need money or a recip' then they can't be bad... Even if you only ever get 2 hits and no "Google love" all it cost you was the time it took to submit your site... the link will never hurt you.

PR is NOT a good reason for submitting to directories. What you're really looking for is relevance (hence gazzahks #3 & #4) and traffic. Also the home page PR is irrelevant anyway, it's the page your link is on which matters for PR.
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The Benchmark for submissions can be Google PR.
Why? Do you go back to all those "low PR directories" every 3 months to see if they've improved? Or ignore them after your first visit and maybe miss the opportunity to get linked in a directory which sends loads of targetted traffic and perhaps ends up with a huge PR!
The time it takes just to check their PR is not much more than it would take to submit!
My advice is to ignore PR altogether and concentrate on relevance... Ultimately that is the key to good rankings, not PR.

In reality - if you only manage a handful of sites then there's really no such thing as a bad free directory listing, considering the amount of time required, you may as well submit to as many as you can.

Of course if you're managing multiple sites and you want to manage your time effectively then you may want to ensure that the links are "followed" & maybe submit 1 site and monitor the traffic levels, but it's worth remembering that their PR/traffic isn 't static, nor is there policy regarding "nofollows" etc. And very often directories will attract most of their traffic for only certain subjects, so monitoring traffic is a poor benchmark unless most/all of your sites are in the same field.

You can spend time checking to see if they use "nofollow" and monitoring traffic/PR etc, or you can just forget that ('cos it may change tomorrow) and spend the time submitting your site(s) instead... after all, your time is all it costs!
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I find only one reason to submit to a Paid Directory and that is if that Directory can provide me with GOOD Referrals. I would actually do a ROI Calculation and then only go for the deal..


I agree with that, I only focus on ROI, if you can get many relevant hits from a dir. that's good.
Now it depends your niche, you may try different way and analyse your logs...
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