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Old May 19th, 2008, 07:25 PM
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You are obviously unhappy with the service that you expected DMOZ to provide you. Can I suggest you ask for a refund.

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Alright... so, basically no argument?
Did you even look at the proof that i have so kindly gathered for you?

I really don't understand what you are trying to say with your statement above, it really has nothing to do with what I said....

Maybe im reading it wrong?

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I could run a 'robert' story on my site making claims about some negative dealings I had with you... would these be truthful?

It doesn't matter - the story was the important part... it did its job -- got lots of links, clicks, traffic, and eyeballs... that's all that mattered... the truth rarely is that appealing that you'll get more links, clicks, traffic, and eyeballs than a great story... and who really cares who believe it... the facts speak for themselves "making money is more important than a dmoz link".
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:18 AM
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Hi
I submit my website (its furniture based website almost over a year) and I submit it in (Top: Regional: Europe: United Kingdom: Business and Economy: Shopping: Home and Garden: Furniture) category, which is best category in my knowledge. That time they had 358 websites listed there, if you go today this category got 288, no body working on this category from last many months.

How come these links dropped from 358 to 288? Is somebody just deleting the links and not adding new links......!

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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:30 AM
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How come these links dropped from 358 to 288? Is somebody just deleting the links and not adding new links......!
Thats what it look like.

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Old May 30th, 2008, 05:34 AM
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Is somebody just deleting the links and not adding new links......!


...without knowing the precise urls being deleted you can speculate on the why?

...frankly though since a "delete" requires the editor to provide a valid reason - they ain't being randomly deleted.

Most often they aren't deleted at all... robozilla is the dmoz bot and each time it finds a 404'ed listing it puts it in the quene for review... server down time, node outage, etc. when robozilla is sweeping and no editor is immediately responsible for the category it will give the public appearance of "just deleting"... when in fact it's "just housecleaning".
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It may also be the case that some of those links have been moved to another category, for example a more geographically specific category.
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I do not claim to be an expert in DMOZ or its editors, and maybe 90% are ethical and do the right thing.
However what I can say after 30 plus years in the aquarium industry in research, maintenance and sales is this hobby/industry is extremely anecdotal, passing around the same tired information over and over, never using research from much better funded industries (such as Horticulture, marine research, human drug studies, etc, etc.) to back up what is stated. For instance I see this in aquarium lighting, where the newer technology T2 and SHO lights are nowhere to be found except in use by aquarium professionals that have to use and stand by their choices on a daily basis..

Another point is a person that worked at a Aquarium Supply distributor as a manager near the end of his career told me a few years back: “I have worked in management for the past 30 years of my life and never have I seen a more back stabbing, dishonest and corrupt industry until I took this job”

My point is unfortunately Google gives weight to DMOZ, and even though many editors may well be good, honest persons, I know from my past three years of submissions that this is not true based on what I do know to be true.
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My point is unfortunately


You don't have a point "unfortunately".

You can't affect change from a position of disinterested.

...and how do I know you are truly disinterested in change?

You can't change DMOZ complaining about the limitations of your industry section "ONLY"... you need to approach it from an all encompassing position...

...and you can get Google's attention looking only from your own commecial vantagepoint.

So regardless of whether you are right or wrong, matters not... your voice doesn't echo wisdom across the scope.

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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:58 PM
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You don't have a point "unfortunately".

You can't affect change from a position of disinterested.

...and how do I know you are truly disinterested in change?

You can't change DMOZ complaining about the limitations of your industry section "ONLY"... you need to approach it from an all encompassing position...

...and you can get Google's attention looking only from your own commecial vantagepoint.

So regardless of whether you are right or wrong, matters not... your voice doesn't echo wisdom across the scope.


While you have a point, if I am dealing with editors that not doing their job or worse, is it not fair to say, this may be a problem elsewhere?


And quite honestly if a search engine is to be totally credible, they do need to look into all aspects of how they weight criteria for search credibility. Google has the intelligent people to do this if they truly wanted to.

Sorry if I choose to not look the other way when wrongs are being committed.

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I know from my past three years of submissions.
How many time have you submitted your site?

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Four times.

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Old June 14th, 2008, 05:11 PM
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Four times.
Thats probably why you not listed. Every time you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous one with the new date. If the editor chooses to use the pool of suggested sites when looking fr sites to add and sorts them by date (most do), then you just keep moving your site to the bottom!
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Old June 14th, 2008, 05:14 PM
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Thats probably why you not listed. Every time you resubmit, you just overwrite the previous one with the new date. If the editor chooses to use the pool of suggested sites when looking fr sites to add and sorts them by date (most do), then you just keep moving your site to the bottom!


I was told to re-submit once every 6 months in several forums i have visited on this subject, and I have not even done this even this often, more like every 8-9 months

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I was told to re-submit once every 6 months in several forums i have visited on this subject, and I have not even done this even this often, more like every 8-9 months
I don't believe you - can you show us where. No editor or anyone associated with DMOZ would EVER have told you to do that.

If you were given that advice, then it would have been from a non-editor and was bad advice. Perhaps you could sue them for that bad advice. It has only hurt and certainly not help you getting your site reviewed.

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