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Old August 25th, 2007, 12:09 PM
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If "no word was ever given" how'd you know it was ever closed?

You "ASSUMED" RIGHT?

...that's your evidence... assumptions.


Ah, the corrupt Dmoz editor returns.

I was told the abuse investigation was closed. No results were revealed, no decision overturned.

The editor in question stated in that ever so friendly and helpful forum that the site in question was refused entry because there was no original content on it - yet it had over 1,000 original, well written articles for its niche, and was updated with new ones daily.

I even pasted the front page article into the forum thread and asked if he'd somehow missed it. No reply.

The reason given for the refusal to list the website was a bogus one, and the abuse ticket I opened was shut down without an reason behind it - besides the corruption of course. Always a great reason.

I notice it's only the Dmoz editors on here defending Dmoz. Funny that. You'd almost suspect their self protecting, self serving natured extended to this forum... almost.

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I notice it's only the Dmoz editors on here defending Dmoz. Funny that. You'd almost suspect their self protecting, self serving natured extended to this forum... almost.


Rarely will you find people dumb enough to argue about that which they know nothing about... but there is always one that "knows everything" just because they are that dumb.
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I was told the abuse investigation was closed. No results were revealed, no decision overturned.
It is closed when it a senior editor has investigated the allegations and acted on if needed. The results óf on investigation are never revealed publically. If no decision was overturned, then it means you were wrong in your allegation. Its that simple. Why can't you get it?

I did ask you to post the evidence here so we could all judge it - I notice that you have not. You just kept saying "corupt", "corupt", "corupt", "corupt". .....dont figure?

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It is closed when it a senior editor has investigated the allegations and acted on if needed. The results óf on investigation are never revealed publically. If no decision was overturned, then it means you were wrong in your allegation. Its that simple. Why can't you get it?

I did ask you to post the evidence here so we could all judge it - I notice that you have not. You just kept saying "corupt", "corupt", "corupt", "corupt". .....dont figure?


The simple fact is the editor stated his reason for refusing the website entry. That reason was bogus. I proved that, yet no action.

Honestly, I don't care one way or another. I did at the time, Dmoz had value back then. Now its only value is to give you guys something to pretend to be important for.

How could I show you evidence? The website had, and still has, a daily source of articles. It was refused for not having original articles. Simple as.

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Rarely will you find people dumb enough to argue about that which they know nothing about... but there is always one that "knows everything" just because they are that dumb.


There speaks the man that has openly shown he is a corrupt Dmoz editor in this very thread. Anything else you'd like to admit to?

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There speaks the man that has openly shown he is a corrupt Dmoz editor in this very thread.


Your power of observation never ceases to amaze me...

Opinion = Corruption...

Glad we cleared that up.

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Anything else you'd like to admit to?


I have a tendency to pick on the village idiots!

I'm truly sorry -- it's not your fault.

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I just bet that JakeCop is a sockpuppet of Fathom. Nobody argues with Fathom anymore (cause they always lose). Soooo... Fathom invents JakeCop. I am just going to sit back and read...
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Your power of observation never ceases to amaze me...

Opinion = Corruption...

Glad we cleared that up.

I have a tendency to pick on the village idiots!

I'm truly sorry -- it's not your fault.


You pick on the village idiots? That's a bit like a small child picking on himself isn't it? Seriously, you have no argument so just resort to name calling again. You have admitted you are corrupt, you have shown it here.

Here's an interesting article about the Dmoz corruption, you may have heard of this guy: http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/26/dmoz-extortion/

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I just bet that JakeCop is a sockpuppet of Fathom. Nobody argues with Fathom anymore (cause they always lose). Soooo... Fathom invents JakeCop. I am just going to sit back and read...


It's an interesting theory, with two minor flaws.

Firstly, Fathom doesn't have the intellect to conjure up someone and secondly, Fathom doesn't have the intellect to conjure up someone. I know technically that's one flaw, but I thought it so important I'd mention it twice.

I'm not surprised no one argues with him either, he refuses to ever acknowledge anything, so it's kind of like arguing with an echo, only less fulfilling.

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You pick on the village idiots? That's a bit like a small child picking on himself isn't it? Seriously, you have no argument so just resort to name calling again. You have admitted you are corrupt, you have shown it here.


I don't view DMOZ as you do. DMOZ/OPD is AOL and AOL itself hasn't been exposed for being corrupt.

Editors are volunteers and are responsible for their own actions... almost all editors that you suggest are "corrupt" [I actually call them volunteers with self-serving interests] are at the lowest level of editorship... surely you can agree that MacDonald isn't corrupt because a few cashiers steal loose change from customers - and don't get caught.

You use the word "corrupt" merely as rhetorical jibberish because you have nothing intelligent to say about DMOZ, and haven't done any real investigation into your hypothesis and you can't be bothered to get involved to:
1. clean up that so-called corruption that you know exists or

2. become a shining example of what a good editor is.

You can't even be be bothered to be "helpful here"... as I understand you are familiar with editor abuse policy - why don't you do some good and show members how to advise the authority level of DMOZ about editors abusing their privileges... I also understand from you "I'm corrupt"... please illustrate for the member how you would expose my corruption to those that can do something about it.

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Here's an interesting article about the Dmoz corruption, you may have heard of this guy: http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/26/dmoz-extortion/


hmmm... There are two sides to every story:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=150377&postcount=41

No matter how much you dig up -- your case of corruption doesn't hold any water - corruption starts at or near the top - and the people at and near the top of DMOZ have freely edited for 8-10 years with millions of edits and the whole time listening to people 'dumb like you' that can't be bothered to help "anyone -- unless there is something in it for them"... spew out vomit about how corrupt real volunteers are.

Jake... you're as dumb as they come - and I doubt I'll ever be able to help you improve upon yourself... it's too bad -- most people that arrive here want to improve.

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I don't view DMOZ as you do. DMOZ/OPD is AOL and AOL itself hasn't been exposed for being corrupt.

Editors are volunteers and are responsible for their own actions... almost all editors that you suggest are "corrupt" [I actually call them volunteers with self-serving interests] are at the lowest level of editorship... surely you can agree that MacDonald isn't corrupt because a few cashiers steal loose change from customers - and don't get caught.

You use the word "corrupt" merely as rhetorical jibberish because you have nothing intelligent to say about DMOZ, and haven't done any real investigation into your hypothesis and you can't be bothered to get involved to:
1. clean up that so-called corruption that you know exists or

2. become a shining example of what a good editor is.

You can't even be be bothered to be "helpful here"... as I understand you are familiar with editor abuse policy - why don't you do some good and show members how to advise the authority level of DMOZ about editors abusing their privileges... I also understand from you "I'm corrupt"... please illustrate for the member how you would expose my corruption to those that can do something about it.

hmmm... There are two sides to every story:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=150377&postcount=41

No matter how much you dig up -- your case of corruption doesn't hold any water - corruption starts at or near the top - and the people at and near the top of DMOZ have freely edited for 8-10 years with millions of edits and the whole time listening to people 'dumb like you' that can't be bothered to help "anyone -- unless there is something in it for them"... spew out vomit about how corrupt real volunteers are.

Jake... you're as dumb as they come - and I doubt I'll ever be able to help you improve upon yourself... it's too bad -- most people that arrive here want to improve.


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Again....diverted from topic to personal swipes.

I wonder if Fathom owes money or something else to Jake..that's why they gel up with each other so nicely

Seriously..this thread was a good read.

My only suggestion to Jake..instead of flaming Dmoz and its editors...give suggestions or advices on how to improve the editorial quality of Dmoz.

If you feel that Dmoz is corrupt..fine..no point in drumming up the issue to prevent other webmasters from submitting their sites in Dmoz...coz that won't help much.

Instead..put up suggestions on how to ward off the "corruption" and how to improve and make Dmoz a better place for the deserving websites.

I but a lottery and don't win a single dime out of it...so that doesn't mean that they are corrupt..just because "I didn't win".

Spreading "Your Opinions" on Dmoz won't depreciate the value of the Directory..nor will it diminish the interest among the webmasters to give Dmoz a shot..at least once

Btw, this thread was on "Tricks to get listed in Dmoz faster" and not on "Is Dmoz corrupt??"

Please stay focussed friends -thanks !
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Again....diverted from topic to personal swipes.

I wonder if Fathom owes money or something else to Jake..that's why they gel up with each other so nicely

Seriously..this thread was a good read.

My only suggestion to Jake..instead of flaming Dmoz and its editors...give suggestions or advices on how to improve the editorial quality of Dmoz.

If you feel that Dmoz is corrupt..fine..no point in drumming up the issue to prevent other webmasters from submitting their sites in Dmoz...coz that won't help much.

Instead..put up suggestions on how to ward off the "corruption" and how to improve and make Dmoz a better place for the deserving websites.

I but a lottery and don't win a single dime out of it...so that doesn't mean that they are corrupt..just because "I didn't win".

Spreading "Your Opinions" on Dmoz won't depreciate the value of the Directory..nor will it diminish the interest among the webmasters to give Dmoz a shot..at least once

Btw, this thread was on "Tricks to get listed in Dmoz faster" and not on "Is Dmoz corrupt??"

Please stay focussed friends -thanks !


Seriously, that's like suggesting ways to make organised crime more accessible for the common man. The nature of the beast breeds its own corruption.

I didn't steer this thread to corruption, nor did I start with personal jibes.

If you seriously want suggestions on how to improve Dmoz, try these:

Make its submission process transparant, the current system harbours distrust and cries of corruption because no one is accountable for what goes in.
Open up the site to embrace more editors. I know d