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Old August 7th, 2007, 08:46 AM
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Question Is Dmoz still corrupt?

Just wondered what others views of Dmoz was these days. Personally I don't bother using it anymore for submissions as I find it a waste of time, as its remit was originally supposed to be, if a site is good enough the editors are supposed to find it themselves.

A few years ago (when the Dmoz forums were open) I had a site rejected from the directory because it didn't have any original content. The editor flat refused to see that the site had original articles on each page, even when I pasted the article from the front page into the forum to show him and asked him if he'd spotted it.

There was an appeal process to report abuse, but as expected the abuse report was closed down with no explanation given.

It doesn't matter mind you, the site is front page of Google for its main keywords anyway so it's getting along fine without Dmoz, I just had a very bitter taste in my mouth left from the obvious corruption of the editor in question and the way the abuse report was handled, or swept under the carpet.

Has it got any better? Is it worth bothering to submit anymore?

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Old August 7th, 2007, 10:55 AM
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its working fine right now.. and yah.. why bother? theres alot of other quality directories out there...
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Old August 8th, 2007, 05:51 AM
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yah.. why bother? theres alot of other quality directories out there...


Agreed, it's lost much of its value and there are better directories to be listed in.

I wonder if its corruption has in anyway led to its loss of importance? I'd like to think so.

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I submit the sites in Dmoz when I am free - check back after 6 months to see if it's listed - if not, re-submit again when I get some free time
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I was just about to ask the same question today. Is Dmoz still around. I am glad I did a little investigating. I do have some free time so maybe I should submit.

Does it really take that long for a site to get in, 6 months! Yikes

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I was just about to ask the same question today. Is Dmoz still around. I am glad I did a little investigating. I do have some free time so maybe I should submit.

Does it really take that long for a site to get in, 6 months! Yikes


6 months if you're lucky, or you know an editor who can sneak it in for you.

It can take years, most people find they never get their sites listed.

I'm not being bitter in case anyone was wondering, I have sites listed, most of which I didn't submit myself as they were added back in the days when Dmoz meant something and the editors actually did go around looking for sites to add.

It's worth you submitting your sites, don't get me wrong - you never know, you might get lucky.

I do find it funny though that its value as a link is considerably diminished these days when the system was so corrupt and self serving. They've managed to destroy themselves from within really.

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I wonder if its corruption has in anyway led to its loss of importance? I'd like to think so.
IMO, the percentage of corruption in dmoz will be 0.01% of less than that... as it is quiet difficult to spot a corrupt editor of a category and bribe him. and dmoz is still important as it lets you get listed in directory.google.com
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My site got listed pretty quickly. It all depends on the editor. Obviously when a new spot opens up, and someone applies then of course it is possible for them to have a conflict of interest with their current employment and the category that are editing.

I mean if you work for a law firm and you edit the legal section and you don't add anyone that competes with your law firm then that could be considered corruption. But how can you stop it from happening? Apply to be the editor for your sites categories. :-)

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My site got listed pretty quickly. It all depends on the editor. Obviously when a new spot opens up, and someone applies then of course it is possible for them to have a conflict of interest with their current employment and the category that are editing.

I mean if you work for a law firm and you edit the legal section and you don't add anyone that competes with your law firm then that could be considered corruption. But how can you stop it from happening? Apply to be the editor for your sites categories. :-)

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Agreed, that's my point exactly. I'm suggesting that Dmoz editors would take bribes for approving listings (though that could happen of course). The inherent nature of Dmoz is flawed because it dictates that people apply to be editors for categories in which they have an interest, so naturally any other websites that wish to be listed would pose a conflict.

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Agreed, that's my point exactly. I'm suggesting that Dmoz editors would take bribes for approving listings (though that could happen of course). The inherent nature of Dmoz is flawed because it dictates that people apply to be editors for categories in which they have an interest, so naturally any other websites that wish to be listed would pose a conflict.


Good point

You get some corrupt editors

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In my opinion it is still corrupt. I have submitted for over 30 months now in a low competition category where several of the approved sites are snake oil sites.
Unfortunately Google still place value on DMOZ or I would just give up (thankfully Yahoo and MSN do not).
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In my opinion it is still corrupt. I have submitted for over 30 months now in a low competition category where several of the approved sites are snake oil sites.
When you say you have submitted for over 30 months now, what do you mean? Have you submitted more than once?

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When you say you have submitted for over 30 months now, what do you mean? Have you submitted more than once?


Yes, three times.

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Yes, three times.
don't figure? You deliberatly flout the guidelines, DMOZ has not listed your site and from that you draw the conclusion that DMOZ is corrupt?

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