Page 2 - Is Dmoz still corrupt?

gazzahk, In reading your post above. Are you saying that DMOZ is not fair and balanced, with editors totally acting in there own self-interest? Am I also led to believe, by your elicitation above, that DMOZ truly is not a vehicle that the average user avails themselves of?

If what you are saying is correct... should I not conclude that DMOZ is totally useless except for it being a pretty nifty backlink? Is this what you are trying to say?

Bottomline: Apply to DMOZ then forget about it. It is a totally sucky unfair system that still gives a damn good backlink.

For the record: We are also listed a couple of places in DMOZ.

You know, the idea was nice at the surface but fundamentally flawed underneath. Human nature is corrupt at it's core (not this is not about doomsday) so eventually ODP was going to crap itself (which it has). As the old French saying goes, "une pomme gate gate tous les autres"

which is crappy french for one rotten apple will rot all the rest.....as in ODP is junk/poo.


My thoughts (more emotive as Gazz would say ) - Wiki Rules Corrupt Dmoz

Are you saying "I" am corrupt (since I am a DMOZ editor) or people like you sneak on in and don't follow the guidelines and have your own set of values?

Surely you can put names and faces to your "deliberate opinion" as you formed it somehow with reason... you wouldn't normally spread half-truths, gossip and lies.

You don't like the dmoz organization -- fair enough - but don't call me corrupt unless you can prove it.

Don't even get me started on DMOZ... I've submitted sites that are far superior and far more up to date than many sites in that category, I'm also positive it's the right category because it's pretty self explanatory. I've looked at some of the websites in my particular category and it looks like they hadn't been updated since the late 90's, and my site can't get in? What the heck is that?

I've also applied numerous times to become an editor for some random category, I'm applying for the third time now (to a different category...) and maybe I'll get accepted . If they need volunteers so badly, and they obviously do to maintain the directories currency, then why is it so difficult to get your foot in the door?

Can I ask two questions as you are the first editor i know.

1) What role do you see that DMOZ is filling in terms of the contempary internet

2) Why does DMOZ not change when it appears the current system is not working very well

I would appreciate your thoughts.

Don't the guidlines say roughly that your site could take 6 to 8 weeks or longer to be listed, and that one should wait at least that long prior to re-submitting?

In the old days of resource-zone.org (or whatever it was called) when the dmoz editors were "so kind" as to post an often short, sarcastic, or un-helpful remark about the status of your submission, the rule of thumb prior to posting an inquiry was to wait 6 weeks.

Point Being:
30 months / 3 submissions = One submission every 10 months over a period of 2-1/2 years...You would call that "deliberately flouting" the guidelines?

And for what reason does any directory editor require 10 months to make a determination whether a site is "worthy" of being listed? Backlog or not, lets be real. Whether you call it corrupt, arrogant, a total joke, inherantly flawed, it doesn't really matter...they all seem pretty accurate.

Sure you can ask... in the corporate world DMOZ is a tax write-off for AOL... that's it.

as for "editors" I can only speak for me... I manage the spirit of the guidelines in which they were written - and any organization that can do so much with so little is higher class in my book.



The current system is not working very well according to who?

1. AOL?

2. OPD Admin?

3. Volunteer Senior METAs?

4. Volunteer Editors?

5. People that abuse the system?

6. People that wantta a link at any cost?

Personally I believe that dmoz on a scale of 1-10 is a 10.

It's a global community of volunteers... I've been involved since 2004 and while I merely edit in a few cats it's fun to grow a cat.

So what's wrong with that?

Absolute rubbish! Not even close to being true.

There is NEVER a need to suggest a site more than once. Any more than once is counterproductive to getting a listing

Whats not working?

DMOZ is the largest directory on the www and no other directory comes remotly close to DMOZ's size
DMOZ is the fastest growing directory on the www and no other directory comes remotly close to DMOZ's growth rate.

ALl that tells me DMOZ is working pretty well to achieve those awesome figures!!

I want free VoIP Service from you for life and if not you are corrupt, arrogant, a total joke, inherantly flawed, it doesn't really matter...they all seem pretty accurate about your business.

Yeah, except, free voip service for life from my business is an actual, achievable condition complete with support personell standing by to answer questions about how to do it.

To bad DMOZ couldn't be so straightforward in how they select sites or editors, as very skillfully expressed by a majority of the posters in this thread.

BTW, aside from getting outstanding marks as an unsubstantiated attack on myself and my business, your reply fails to address any of the points raised in my original post.

Bravo. Excellent example of how all that special DMOZ "power" goes to the heads of its editors.

p.s. I'm sure something as shady as providing affordable global communications is an absolutly loathsome business to a guy promoting a wholesome, honest to goodness online dating blog, complete with ads for mail-order brides. Touché Fathom, I certainly see the wisdom of those 33 reputation points in action.

You expect something for free from DMOZ and attack it for not providing it to you. Why should we not expect something free from your site and attack you if you dont provide it? You can't have it both ways. I did answer your point by pointng out they were wrong. You need to go and check your facts before posting such rubbish.