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Old April 22nd, 2009, 06:38 AM
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Have been waiting over a year now for DMOZ!

Hi guys,

i added my site to the dmoz directory and since then have had nothing showing its been added etc ive searched for it and still not there this was done over a year ago now and getting worried.

I might be missing something here can you have a look and see if you can see anything.

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Old April 22nd, 2009, 06:14 PM
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Once you have submitted once, then move on there is nothing more you can do that will help.

An editor will eventually look at.

Editors use many sources to find new sites when they are working on a category; the suggested sites is just one source. As its the worse source, many editors just use other sources. The editors job is not to process submission, but to find good sites to add.

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Dont sweat it so much. Dmoz is completely human edited and they get thousands of submissions. Also the manual submissions can be used however the editor feels that he/she would like to use them.

I have submitted hundreds of sites, I get maybe a 10% listing return.

Some have been listed in a few days, even a few hours others have been submitted 5-6 years ago with no listing yet.

My only suggestion is to make sure you have the best category, I mean absolute best...

If its a brick and mortar business that sells blue widgets dont submit to national-blue widgets, submit to your local, right down to your towns blue-widget category in DMOZ.
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Hi guys,

i added my site to the dmoz directory and since then have had nothing showing its been added etc ive searched for it and still not there this was done over a year ago now and getting worried.

I might be missing something here can you have a look and see if you can see anything.

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In many, many categories, the dmoz directory is no longer being maintained, and as the previous posters noted, the editors that are still contributing may have their own sources of sites to add.

dmoz carries much less weight than it did years ago. If you've submitted your site and you someday, somehow get added, great. But it's really not something to 'worry' about if you don't.
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what do you mean 'no longer maintained'?

im a DMOZ editor, and always maintaining my category, and I see new editors joining every week!

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In many, many categories, the dmoz directory is no longer being maintained, and as the previous posters noted, the editors that are still contributing may have their own sources of sites to add.

dmoz carries much less weight than it did years ago. If you've submitted your site and you someday, somehow get added, great. But it's really not something to 'worry' about if you don't.
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.... others have been submitted 5-6 years ago with no listing yet.

Are you saying that you're still waiting for them one day to show up in DMOZ Index and specially after crash?
Give up man, your sites got gone in oblivion long time ago.


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submit....then forget.

all else is simplyl anxiety....as DMOZ is notoriously slow and lacking in any degree of accountability....

tough lesson to learn as the site started out with the best of intentions....but has truly been surpassed by mediocrity....

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as DMOZ is notoriously slow
As DMOZ adds ~2000 new sites a week, that makes it the fastest growing directory on the www. How is that notoriously slow?
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WHo do you think they should be accountable to?

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When I submit to DMOZ... I check every 30-45 seconds to see if I am listed. Sometimes it takes up to 10-15 minutes to get listed.

How long to wait on DMOZ is a question that has been asked and answered time and time again. The answer is always the same: Submit and move on... If not listed over some long period of time... your site was likely rejected.
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it is slow, in that we've attempted to get more than 40 sites added -- we follow the sub process exactly, and to date 3 have been added. that's 37 MIAs....which in my mind but more importantly, our clients minds, SLOW! whoops, and this has been in the past 3 years alone....

accountable? to the submitter I'd suppose. there is not a single contact you can make to find out "when" if ever, your sub will be listed. that bothers me, in that is not-accountable....

and lastly, the whole DMOZ launch and buzz at the time was anything but that....a slow, unaccountable site that at the time, fed others with results.

my own opinions, but like SEO_AM and everyone else has indicated, sub then move on.

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As DMOZ adds ~2000 new sites a week, that makes it the fastest growing directory on the www. How is that notoriously slow?WHo do you think they should be accountable to?


Well I am sure that some of the fly by night directories which the "link builders" use get more than 2,000 adds per week so fastest growing is a bit of a moot point.

As far as accountability goes without a paid submission process I wouldn't expect an answer as to why my site was rejected. I dont see any reason why DMOZ should inform people as to why their site is rejected, that would be a huge resource intensive process and would require editors to actually look at every site submitted.

However DMOZ has not changed at all since its launch except that it has gotten progressively worse at adding sites via the submit feature. The reasons behind this are obvious as I am sure the amount of sites submitted has grown while the quality of submissions has dropped since its inception.

I believe that DMOZ is dying and the reason is its lack of progression toward web 2.0. Directories are a thing of the past and DMOZ needs to grow, as a lack of change for any business, profit or non profit will lead to its eventual demise.

DMOZ results dont even show in SERPS hardly anymore I believe that eventually Google will stop importing DMOZ and when that happens it will be a quick death for DMOZ.

DMOZ needs to come up with a plan for 2.0 or it will slowly fall into obscurity. I believe part of the 2.0 should be a paid version maybe a category sponsorship or paid submission with feedback on the decision. Along with many other changes...

Today DMOZ is seen as an elitist directory among webmasters, fraught with editor fraud, palm greasing and arrogance. Not to say that this is true, but it is the perception.

Among the general public... DMOZ is virtually unknown.

Where does that leave DMOZ for the future? With a bad need for a rebirth and rebranding, just to start
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it is slow, in that we've attempted to get more than 40 sites added -- we follow the sub process exactly, and to date 3 have been added. that's 37 MIAs....which in my mind but more importantly, our clients minds, SLOW! whoops, and this has been in the past 3 years alone....
So they are slow because they have not met your service expectations! DMOZ is not there to meet the service expectations of webmasters! Where did you get the impression that DMOZ owes anything to webmasters? How much are you paying for this service that you are not getting? How about asking for a refund? (BTW - it could be entirely possible that most of those sites are not listable)
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I might be missing something here can you have a look and see if you can see anything.


DMOZ isn't a free listing service...

You don't offer DMOZ anything useful that they don't already have.
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What absolute rubbish! Do you think Google should be accountable to webmasters?

Absolutely. Why you're asking?
Lets just say if we, webmasters, add robots.txt and kick G in her a**, it will become just another link in Yahoo and MSN Index.
Without us, this little bitch is nothing.

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Absolutely. Why you're asking?
BUT, Google is NOT accountable to webmasters. They are accountable to their shareholders.

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