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Old September 25th, 2005, 09:37 PM
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LMAO-human beings volunteer for the good of the community, net, the public....please.......

Editors...."cough...cough"...webmasters join ODP for personal vested interests..."AKA - their own sites."

If Google stopped using ODP for it's Directory, how many volunteers would Dmoz have then? ........0
What happened to the good of the community?
So where is the good for the community of helpless web surfers (users) now?

I think the commercial is "Google it" - not "Dmoz it." As a matter of fact, only WM or SEO's know what Dmoz is.

I just wish honesty could prevail just once, in modern day business (there are a few exceptional cases). But that's not reality.

And anyone calling the cards (ODP) for what they are, will be beaten like a red-headed stepchild, from those who protect her like a Labrador sinking in Louisiana.

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DMOZ = No traffic in my opinion

DMOZ should have been dropped by Google years ago if you ask me. It takes forever to get a listing... when you do get a listing it's usually in an incorrect category and as for updating your site and making any changes once listed ... you can forget it....!!!!

End of rant sorry... Grrrrrrrrrrrr

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Old September 27th, 2005, 03:31 PM
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DMOZ should have been dropped by Google years ago if you ask me. It takes forever to get a listing... when you do get a listing it's usually in an incorrect category and as for updating your site and making any changes once listed ... you can forget it....!!!!

End of rant sorry... Grrrrrrrrrrrr


Oh dear... How many times?

DMOZ is for it's users, it's not for SEO people! You've got Google for that! You're playing in the wrong playground!

The swings and roundabouts you want are over the street...

I dunno, kids!

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As long as webmasters complain that DMOZ is not meeting there SEO needs, then Google has all the evidence they need to keep usng DMOZ.

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Old September 29th, 2005, 11:43 AM
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Does it really make any difference whether Google uses DMOZ or not?

They don't add any value to the directory, do they?

I dunno, I can't see what the big deal is...

But then I'm just a DMOZ user, not a DMOZ would-be spammer

DMOZ is gorgeous! (and has lovely fluffy bits!)

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I don't want to take a dig at DMOZ but one thing that I do find curious is this. I applied to be editor of a hugely irrellevant category with no commercial ramification whatsoever, and my application was rejected without reason within 2 days. A friend of mine applied too, same story.

But, this category is out of date, and new content hasn't been added in more than a year. Seems to me odd that folk willing to help DMOZ out get told "no thanks", yet the category remains editor-less and out of date.

So I'm applying again, if I get another rejection for no reason can I take this up with someone at DMOZ?

In terms of actual traffic from DMOZ, having been listed there for 4? years, I find that now only minimal traffic comes from there. Perhaps its greatest advantage is that it's seen as an authority site, and that it is propagated through other sites pulling in dmoz content.

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There is no rush to accept an editor who does not the promise of being able to edit properly. An editor who cannot follow the guidelines ends up making errors that another editor then has to go and fix, that neither helps the "out of date" category, or the directory as a whole.

I've been in that positon, of having to go back and review an other editor's mistakes and fix them all up, it's very annoying.

It's surprising how difficult it is for most people to follow the guidlines, which in fact are pretty simple. My own opinion, is that many editors are let in, who cannot at first edit correctly, but are able to catch on and correct their own errors. I think it requires a lot of judgement on those who accept editors to differentiate between those who will be able to improve and become good editors, and those are are not. At the same time, they have to sense and stop those who are only applying to promote their own agenda.

Many existing editors made several applications before being accepted.

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Agreed regarding quality, but what bothers me is the lack of reason. Also, unlike 99% of DMOZ editors, I've actually been the editor of an international publication, so I know that my subbing and editing skills are more than good enough for DMOZ. I alo followed their styleguide to the letter... we'll see I guess.

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I've actually been the editor of an international publication, so I know that my subbing and editing skills are more than good enough for DMOZ.
They are not even close to being the same skills .... good luck with the application though, as DMOZ needs good editors who can demonstrate that they can follow the gudielines and list appropriate sites.

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That is only the case if you consider DMOZ to be some sort of listing service - its not... as such the concept of a "backlog" does not really exist.

I think if you read this you might be inclined to retract your statement there fella.

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Last time I did the maths, across all my sites traffic from DMOZ and its clones was about 0.1-0.5% of total visitors.

A DMOZ link will help your ranking in SE's about as much as any other equivalent link from any other site.


Hey CBP, in other thread you told you should not promote your own sites and not be involved in SEO if you are DMOZ editor.

It is appeares you are SEO guy , DMOZ editor and have tonns of websites and clones as mentioned before, and promote them all with ODP, MrLeroy got kicked out just to be honest and you stay, isn't it wrong?

I think this is just show what is ODP is - you are DMOZ editor and SEO guy at the same time, and as you mentioned before promoting your sites and clones.

My advise - forget about ODP - build your backlinks and do not waste time here, it is not worth it. Do not even send your site as if you will send it there it will iundicate that site is "SEO active", will not be included and at the same time you will never get on top in Google, because there is filter on sites submitted to ODP.

So do not submit to DMOZ, build your links and you will end up better then submitting there.

Submitting sites to DMOZ - harm your Google SEO ranking.
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and gaining a extra 100+ or so backlinks harm your SEO ranking?

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