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Old September 27th, 2007, 04:47 AM
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Any benefits from Dmoz listing?

hi,

as i see there are about 476 threads here, and i don't really have a week to read all of them, i'll take my chance and ask something that maybe was answered a couple of times already:

is submitting my site to DMOZ, and in case of them accepting it, and having it listed in their directory going to help my google rankings?

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as i see there are about 476 threads here, and i don't really have a week to read all of them, i'll take my chance and ask something that maybe was answered a couple of times already:

is submitting my site to DMOZ, and in case of them accepting it, and having it listed in their directory going to help my google rankings?


Maybe Dmoz links count towards the ranking of a site in Google.

But IMO you should just think of Dmoz as a quality directory listing quality sites and having a high PR...don't expect anything more than that. Else you might be disappointed
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Old September 27th, 2007, 05:01 AM
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isn't the way of getting listed in Google Directory is first getting listed in Dmoz? or they have no correlation whatsoever?

meanwhile thanks for your answer. i really appreciate it!

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Old September 27th, 2007, 05:10 AM
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isn't the way of getting listed in Google Directory is first getting listed in Dmoz? or they have no correlation whatsoever?

meanwhile thanks for your answer. i really appreciate it!


Yes, getting listed in Google directory has got a lot to do with Dmoz.

In fact you will get listed to many directories that are associated with Dmoz such as Excite, Lycos etc..but only IF you get listed in Dmoz.

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i see. thanks very much for the info!

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It just a link ... I can't work out why so many get obsessed over a link.

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because there are links and links.
there are links i would kill for, and there are millions of links i don't really give a f about...

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It just a link ... I can't work out why so many get obsessed over a link.
It's not an obsession. Most of my sites don't have one and they do just fine in Google. Doesn't mean I've not submitted them, tho. As I've told my coworkers who do this now "Submit it and forget about it". Thankfully it's easy to forget stuff like this If we get it, good. If we don't get it, we'll be just fine. Plenty of quality links in the information sea.

But DMOZ likes to hold itself up as something more than it is. It likes to pretend that there's a community with standards and that this is something great like, say, Linux. And yet it's a giant black box. There's no public community and the standards are applied only behind the scenes. The whole thread about corruption, while largely silly, highlighted that fact. In a community you'd get some feedback. In DMOZ there's only silence. So you either get lucky and get listed or you know someone somehow that can help you get in. My argument is the same as always: have them make it a bit more transparent as to what's going on (ie show end users what's happening with their submissions) and they could eliminate most of the drama that swirls around ODP. But I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

Worth it to submit to DMOZ? Yes
Good quality one way link? Yes
Is it an SEO strategy? Not by itself
Community? Remains to be seen...

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But DMOZ likes to hold itself up as something more than it is.
Where does DMOZ do that? I think its the obsessed that hold DMOZ to be something more than it is.

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Where does DMOZ do that? I think its the obsessed that hold DMOZ to be something more than it is.

Right on the DMOZ web site. The following is quoted from http://www.dmoz.org/about.html

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The Open Directory Project is the largest, most comprehensive human-edited directory of the Web. It is constructed and maintained by a vast, global community of volunteer editors.

Instead of fighting the explosive growth of the Internet, the Open Directory provides the means for the Internet to organize itself. As the Internet grows, so do the number of net-citizens. These citizens can each organize a small portion of the web and present it back to the rest of the population, culling out the bad and useless and keeping only the best content.


And http://www.dmoz.org/socialcontract.html

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We foster a self-regulating community governed by community-driven standards. We encourage the community to regulate itself, and to provide the checks and balances needed to ensure that its members follow mutually accepted codes of conduct and editorial standards. We depend on the honesty and integrity of the volunteer editors to ensure the directory is high quality, user-friendly, and free of abuse.


I only hold DMOZ to its own stated standard of being a community. As I've said many times before, DMOZ is a black box. What's frustrating is it doesn't have to be.
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DMOZ.. is it benefit? lol well.. it has done alot for me.

it took me while to get excepted, but since i have been, iv increased my backlinks, im in the google directory, i have to admit, my ranking on google is gone noticably higher.

i have DMOZ a A+ persoanally as it helped me alot, iv heard alot of badthings about DMOZ but never experinced it.

just submit, takes few mins, n forget. thats it.

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I hear a lot of people speaking about DMOZ....mostly bad....I would think mostly out of a lack of knowledge about DMOZ. I would tell you that you should join DMOZ. It's easy......and the easiest way to be accepted is to pick a tiny....and I mean tiny cat and apply. Probably the best is to go through localities and get to your town and apply to be an editor. Once you are in, then you can be part of the solution!!
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Im actually a bit puzzled about the link value of dmoz.

I have been in dmoz only for a fortnight, but using a link checker tool, the pr value of the link is 0. Is this normal, i thought dmoz would have high PR and some of that would be passed on to me.

26: http://www.dmoz-resources.com
PageRank: 0; first link from this domain @ 72.9.156

This is the exact info from the link tool.

I had hoped to see a nice PR5 or more link....bummer.

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As with any directory, the deeper the category, the less PR is passed to it from the homepage. You'd have to be pretty high up the category structure to see PR5.

However, the fact that the category has no visible pagerank does not mean it passes no value. DMOZ has much trust with Google, and IMHO that passing of trust is worth far more than any green fairy dust.

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Thats good to know, thanks Jagnet.

Im still learning so dont fully comprehend seo, links and pageranks etc.

Cheers.

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