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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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Ranking No.1 in MSN in Just 7 days

Today, many webmasters even experts believe that ranking high in a search engine takes a lot of time and a lot of effort. But is this true, it may be true to you but not to me!

"Getting a high search engine ranking is not an overnight game!" this is what I also used to believe that a lot of experts still do but very soon... EVERYTHING CHANGED.

This article is all about how I ranked no.1 in MSN in just 7days and how can you do this!

It was 8th,may 2006 when I first submitted my URL to some of the top search engines including Yahoo, Google and... MSN. On 10th, may 2006 I published my whole site and on 15th may I was shocked to see my website on 12the rank for economical search engine optimization and no.1 for economical search engine optimization firm in MSN search.

I was shocked because I had never thought that MSN will index my whole site in just 5 days and also will reward me top rankings in its listings. I thought that it would take at least 2 weeks to just get into its database but I think it was my optimized site which supported MSN to give it high rankings.

So, what I concluded from it was that my strategy for my website was absolutely correct. So, if it can work for me then why can't it work for you.

So What Was My Strategy?

A Good keyword research - I performed a very good keyword research using Google and Overture's Inventory tool. If you want to rank high you need to perform a good keyword research because if you are targeting a very competitive keyword and your site is new then you have no chance. Keyword research is what that will bring you targeted traffic so try to perform a good keyword research it's useless to compete for highly competitive keywords just to get high amount of traffic. Don't bother about the traffic they generate just target less competitive keywords and phrases where you have some chance to win the race. Remember slow and steady wins the race.

Keyword Density and Utilization - MSN gives a great importance to the keyword density of your page and also to the keyword density in the first 1000 characters used in your web page. Its better to use a density of 4-5%. This why I used my most important keywords at the top of each page which really supports my rankings in MSN. But always remember that stuffing will not give you rankings just be descriptive and focused to your content and you will rank according to what you deserve.

Keywords in Title: Title once again, now everyone of you would be knowing that Title is one of the most important ones so, it is strongly recommended that you use your important keywords in the Title tag first and keep the density in the title between 30-40% and always remember to be descriptive rather than filling it with keywords because natural is what that is favored by the search engines. Stuffing keywords in the Title like : <title>SEO, SEO Firm, SEO Services, SEO India</title> will not work except of stuffing you should prefer something like: <title>SEO Firm India Providing Quality SEO Services</title>

Keywords Used In Incoming Links To Your Site - Keywords used in incoming links to your site is the most important factor for your ranking. Use the same keywords in your links text that you use in Title, this is what which have boosted my rankings up the order if I remove the keywords from the incoming links then my rankings may drop again. So, the best thing to do when building links is that use your important keywords in the tag rather than using your company name. Example:

An Ordinary Link: Vistadivine - an economical search engine optimization firm.

A Good Link: Search Engine Optimization Firm - an economical search engine optimization firm in India.

But also remember don't try to be oversmart or don't do anything foolish with MSN.

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Old August 12th, 2006, 09:08 AM
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Msn is the easiest of all you dont need to be a genious to be rank in less than a week in fact you can rank faster than that all you need is links, i know msn algo has change but i still think that with tons of links you can get there faster than getting a shower

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Even after the algo change MSn still needs lots of links as it did earl;ier.. only difference it needs quality links now..relevancy is still a far away matter for MSN ..try to get as many links to your sites..and you can come in SERPS very soon..I have done it many a times but Maintaing that position that was achieved by this method is quite difficult..

Personally if All the factors required to bring a site on top in google are applied for a site in MSN as well, then it can make a long stay on MSN as well..(Although quantity of links is still the main factor for MSN..

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Ya I agree MSN is really easy but the real hardcore is Google lets see what rank I get in the next update in Google.

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Msn is the easiest of all you dont need to be a genious to be rank in less than a week in fact you can rank faster than that all you need is links, i know msn algo has change but i still think that with tons of links you can get there faster than getting a shower

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i don't think this holds true anymore. I have thousands of IBLs and rank #1 in Yahoo and #2 in Google. I use to rank #1 in msn, but now I have competitors with 1-10 IBLs outranking me in MSN.

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getting ranked in msn

There's this great article on seo chat about getting ranked in msn. It had a line that went something like this (apologies to the author if I screw it up).

Getting ranked in msn is like taking candy from your niece. It gives you instant satisfaction but in the end you're left with a whining kid and a bigger waistline.

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Maybe its just me...

I do ok in MSN, but to be honest, I never target for anything other than Google. It seems that when i do that, MSN, Yahoo, and ASK come naturally.

However, I think that MSN uses Link Strength with their algo more than most links wins. I have a few sites that do not have a lot of links, but have one, maybe 2 strong links and that seems to have better weight than other sites I have that have hundreds of links targeting a keyword.

It also seems that MSN eats RSS for breakfast, lunch , and dinner.

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We only target Google. In the process we dominate Yahoo and MSN. Go after Google and in all liklihood you will do well in Yahoo and MSN as a kicker. Be always mindful that Google enjoys 5-7 times the number of searches as MSN. IMO, being #11 or #12 in Google will likely bring you much more traffic than being #1 or #2 in MSN.

Your ego will enjoy your MSN results, but meat will be put on the table with your lesser Google results.
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I do ok in MSN, but to be honest, I never target for anything other than Google. It seems that when i do that, MSN, Yahoo, and ASK come naturally.

However, I think that MSN uses Link Strength with their algo more than most links wins. I have a few sites that do not have a lot of links, but have one, maybe 2 strong links and that seems to have better weight than other sites I have that have hundreds of links targeting a keyword.

It also seems that MSN eats RSS for breakfast, lunch , and dinner.
i am not sure about the link strength comment, as my competitors with only 2 links are outranking me (irrelevant low PR links).

i have noticed that the drop came after my blogging/rss feed updates on my home page stopped. however, my competitors update their sites less than once a year! i'll try making posts more often and see how it does.

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i am not sure about the link strength comment, as my competitors with only 2 links are outranking me (irrelevant low PR links).

i have noticed that the drop came after my blogging/rss feed updates on my home page stopped. however, my competitors update their sites less than once a year! i'll try making posts more often and see how it does.


yeah i was kind of reaching on the link strength comment. I think you might be on to something though. My 2 strong links I am referring to as blogs and they are updated constantly. That could be the tie in with me anyway. While google reigns supreme, does anyone think that they will receive an initial MSN traffic boost when Vista Rolls out. I think it might happen because OOB for the most part is going to probably default to Live Search and if they make it "cool and relevant enough" by Vista's launch date, some percentage might want to keep on using it.

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i don't think this holds true anymore. I have thousands of IBLs and rank #1 in Yahoo and #2 in Google. I use to rank #1 in msn, but now I have competitors with 1-10 IBLs outranking me in MSN.


really... i as i say i know msn had make some changes but i dont really track him alot i know msn still uses tons of links to rank but i know he is trying to be more like google... i just go by the philosophy SEO_AM uses that is optimizing for google and then all other search engines come indirectly...

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i just go by the philosophy SEO_AM uses that is optimizing for google and then all other search engines come indirectly...


i WAS using that philosophy until now, as that mentality does you no good if you are already at the top of G, but on page 2 of MSN.

anyone have any ideas other than regular site updates?

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If good in Google and lower in MSN or Yahoo, I review my onpage and tweak.

In my experience, Google is primarily about content relevance and backlinks and their quality. You can still onpage tweak Yahoo and MSN upwards in the SERPs.
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I'm don't know what others think about your post, but it looks a lot like spam to me. Especially since you have posted the exact same message all over the Internet. Just my opinion. I'm not going to give you red for it.