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Old January 22nd, 2005, 01:26 AM
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Question about MSNBot.

Hello everyone,
I am new here as you can see and I am only learning..

MSNBot does not crawl our site deeply.
Right now we have quite good standing on MSN beta and Yahoo (#4- 6 for main keywords), so I am not even sure we should change anything.. I hope you could tell me what is the best thing to do.
We use Java Script for our menu and as soon as we added site map and extra links (duplicating menu) in the footer, Googlebot and Inktomi Slurp went deeper inside and indexed some of our new pages. MSNBot is not as active as those guys. It got only few of our new pages, and also there are 2-3 times less hits per day then Googlebot and Inktomi Slurp. I think it cannot find it's way. Does anyone know what is so special about MSNBot?
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Old January 22nd, 2005, 01:55 AM
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Welcome to SEO Chat.

Do you have a site map?

You haven't given a lot of information, but I think you are on the right track. Have you read the SEO FAQ? If not, start there. You can find it in my sig.

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Thank you, Gr8ted3s, for quick reply. Yes, we added site map recently, about 2 weeks ago. And on FAQ page there is no answer for this question.

Should I (could I) post our website name?

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do you guys really think a site map helps that much, ive never had one, but ive always been indexed pretty deeply.

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do you guys really think a site map helps that much, ive never had one, but ive always been indexed pretty deeply.

Depends how many pages and on the site structure. An establiched site will get it's pages crawled quickly. But a new site with lots of pages will benefit from a sitemap.

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Does anyone know what is so special about MSNBot?
Thank you in advance.


First of all, I don't understand why it's gatehering so much data. I've noticed that it updates the data pretty often, but still it gathers way much more information than other engines.
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Old January 24th, 2005, 07:37 PM
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Here are some numbers from our stats for Robots/Spiders visitors:
hits bandwidth
661 5.96 MB - Inktomi Slurp
406 5.20 MB - Googlebot
and MSNBot
114 881.81 KB
Last visits today and yesterday.

That's why I've asked...

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Btw, we are #4 for our main keyword on MSN and #174 on Google with 70% chances of sandbox, not very competitive words though ..

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The site map here should help a lot, but the MSN bot is the same as all the others. It doenst deep crawl a site every time it hits it. For that you just have to be patient.

The biggest problem you would have had before are the JavaScript links. These are killers to SE Bots. If you can work out a good sitemap you'll see some results from every bot over the course of a month or so. Even adding the navigation to the bottoms of your pages is going to help as well.

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Catacaustic - thanks!
I'll wait and maybe twick our site map and footer links a little bit..

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