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#31
December 18th, 2003, 03:16 AM
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Our hits went up from about 10% to 15 - 20% in the UK when MSN UK dropped Looksmart a couple of months ago. MSN listings always a joke while using LookSmart so a bit better now. Google still the big player and Ask Jeeves does about 5%.
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December 18th, 2003, 07:57 AM
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Gringo has called it perfectly. MSN will not be a search engine until they clear the four pages of irrelevant directory listings from the top of the SERPs on competetive terms. Any time I have searched on MSN I have found four pages of crap at top SERPs. Google kicks their butts when it comes to relevance.
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#33
December 18th, 2003, 10:08 AM
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engine by engine traffic
We have some clients who get ALL their traffic from AOL, others live by Google I think it really depends on who you are tring to reach. We see a lot more site activity from company to indvidual consumer on AOL (clothing for instance) than from Google. MSN fell below both in the same area. I would LOVE to see MSN "rise to the top" that is of course till they start changing their algorithms:-D
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December 18th, 2003, 10:28 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by digitalpoint
[B]Well, maybe MSN just doesn't like me... but here are my search engine referring stats for yesterday for the top 6: Google: 12,448 Yahoo: 1,531 AOL: 167 MSN: 140 Ask Jeeves: 23 Alta Vista: 21 Good grief those stats make me feel pathetic! More work needed I think.
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December 18th, 2003, 02:17 PM
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I agree with Cordan. I'm sure it all depends on what you sell.
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December 18th, 2003, 03:19 PM
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No kidding! I thought my traffic was pretty decent until now... Thanks DP. Do you target thousands of keywords to bring in that much traffic? or are there only a few that just happen to get searched thousands of times daily?
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#37
December 19th, 2003, 11:00 AM
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FYI FWIW: Here are my stats for my personal web site of www.komar.org.
5,798 Google (many country URL's seen) 5,913 Google Images (ditto above) 2,163 Yahoo 584 Yahoo Images 648 MSN 436 AOL 119 Ask Jeeves 79 DogPile However, this is a MONTH's (2003_11) worth of stats ... so Shawn is totally smoking me - if he is willing to share more info, I'd be curious to hear more about his distribution of keywords and frequency. For me, there is probably a dozen or so keywords, such as Christmas Webcam, where I rank #1 (or in the top 10) that generate a moderate number of hits, but tails off pretty quick after that. alek
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#38
December 19th, 2003, 11:19 AM
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I posted on this thread in early October saying that msn brought me 15% of traffic since then it has gone up to the current percent (see below).
with MSN three word phrases are better with relevancy. It is terrible for broad searches like "widgets" but "small blue widgets" will bring better results. I guess when you get that specific it better bring relevant results or nobody would search right? Google 3672 41.54% MSN 1877 21.23% Yahoo! Web Sites 1309 14.8% AOL 693 7.84%
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#39
December 19th, 2003, 12:26 PM
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Googler,
Your percentages are almost exactly like mine!
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December 19th, 2003, 01:02 PM
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Me and Digital's stats are about the same except I get alittle more MSN traffic (Dont ask me why)
But it all depends on product and customer demand really. DP has software and great tools and I do travel. Both are extremely popular. You can have 10000 keywords on your site but if the product only receives minimul searches or is in demand seasonally traffic will suffer. It's not how much traffic you get but the conversion and targeting. The traffic does allow you to sell ad space though. -PK
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#41
December 19th, 2003, 01:06 PM
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It all boils down to ROI. Thats the thing I don't care if I get less traffic If the sales are still rising I'm happy. Thats the beauty of SEO you can increase traffic by 20% and sales by only 5% but hey it's for free right?
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#42
December 19th, 2003, 07:52 PM
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Exactly. All the traffic in the world is useless if it's only costing you money. I'm still amazed at how many people ignore MSN (or LookSmart for that matter). The truth is always in the numbers. Of course every web site is different. For one particular client, they draw less than half the traffic from MSN as they do from Goolge, but the conversion ratio and value per sale at MSN is much higher than Google. For other sites, depending on the industry , conversions differ considerably. Measurement is the only way to go. Otherwise you're playing a guessing game. Example of numbers for one month: Google US: 2517 - Conv = 4.17 Yahoo US: 2064 - Conv = 5.47 MSN US: 1114 - Conv = 7.18 AOL: 729 - Conv = 7.41 Cheers
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#43
December 21st, 2003, 03:29 AM
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FYI FWIW: My web site stats took a bit (!) of a jump up today after it showed up in Slashdot - resulted in 16,540 referrals in a SINGLE day ... so I was playing with the big boys (aka Shawn/DP) for at least one day - was kinda fun! ;-)
alek
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#45
December 22nd, 2003, 11:18 AM
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I got /.'ed last year and they "crushed" me ... but I was in much better shape last year (more info at the site) and things mostly behaved. From an SEO perspective, it certainly skyrockets the number of impressions (I'm running Adsense on the site) ... but unfortunately the click-thru percentage drops a bit! ;-)
Happy Holidays, alek
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