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Old September 30th, 2005, 05:43 PM
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MSN loves good sites...
I feel I have to make a comment here.

Make a good site and it'll do well in MSN.

I don't know what happens to bad sites... I'm sure a lot of people can tell me though.

My comment is made.

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I'd add that MSN seems to be very happy with our site since we went for W3C compliance. I think it's a standard savvy bot - sweet.
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I'd add that MSN seems to be very happy with our site since we went for W3C compliance. I think it's a standard savvy bot - sweet.
Could you explain to what W3C compliance is?
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Could you explain to what W3C compliance is?
Check this out
http://validator.w3.org/
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/
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Old October 1st, 2005, 03:33 AM
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can i ask what good meens for you?
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Old October 1st, 2005, 04:07 AM
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MSN loves sites which:

1- have keyword in the domain

2- Onpage optimization

3- Some relevant backlinks etc
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Could you explain to what W3C compliance is?


Yeah sure, W3C compliance means that the HTML is coded in such a way as it conforms to the formal specification as published by the World Wide Web consortium (W3C).

Follow the link below for more details on these standards. EVERY web developer worth his or her salt should at least be aware of these standards.

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/Web-Quality

Hope this clarifies things...
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Although may love good sites, it seems that a love of good, "white hat" sites are suffering from this issue. More than likely its just an issue of some changes that are being made and/or test. I just wished they'd make such changes and run such tests on a dummy search that did not effect people's bottom line.

The reason that a lot of new sites have done well with MSN (including mine, until these last two blips that have occurred over the past 60 days or so...the first one recovered just fine) is that yes, a well put together site tends to get recognized by them. I don't think that has changed, but that there are growing pains and this is just one of them.
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MSN unlike Google isn't Ageist, they believe that a new site could be 'good' and an old site could be bad'. IMO MSN have actually built an SE that is equal to Google without the sandbox handicap, only question is will Joe Public make the same discovery?
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can i ask what good meens for you?


A site which will please its intended audience.

And for you?

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I think MSN also tends to like sites with index pages targeted for a keyword (ie: it tries to give more weight to sites over merely pages).

What MSN needs to work on is cutting down the duplicate content spam and doorway pages that I often see make it into their results.
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just a question but do you make your good site with microsoft software ?
That does seem to help , msn love standards and w3c is the html validation test
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just a question but do you make your good site with microsoft software ?
That does seem to help ...


LOL - are you implying that sites generated in FP outperform other sites in MSN's SERPs?

I agree with the general concensus that MSN delivers 'good' results. Mostly I agree because I rank much higher in MSN for the the keywords which I rank for only moderately in Yahoo and not at all in Google.
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I avoid FP like the plague, and I have been able to show up well in MSN.
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