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Old August 16th, 2006, 08:26 PM
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Has anyone noticed that it is taking much longer for pages to appear in the MSN search results over the last two or three weeks? It is not site specific. The pages are W3C compliant. When they do appear I am getting top placement.

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Old August 16th, 2006, 09:26 PM
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I am confused... Do you believe MSN is broken because you are getting top placement, or because it seems slow in loading?

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Old August 16th, 2006, 09:39 PM
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I am confused... Do you believe MSN is broken because you are getting top placement, or because it seems slow in loading?


No, I understand the top placement. What I'm trying to say that, after MSN crawls my web sites, it is taking a much longer time until new pages appear in search results or until tweaks to existing pages are reflected in the search results.

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Old August 16th, 2006, 09:43 PM
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No, I understand the top placement. What I'm trying to say that, after MSN crawls my web sites, it is taking a much longer time until new pages appear in search results or until tweaks to existing pages are reflected in the search results.


Yes I have really noticed this alot over multiple sites. Whether its adding new pages or tweaking exsiting ones.

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Old August 16th, 2006, 10:15 PM
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Updating of cache schedules can vary all over the map. I can sometimes get updated pages crawled and re-indexed in 48-72 hours. Sometimes it takes days. Nothing to do but wait patiently for the gods of search to bless us with the results of our changes.

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Old August 16th, 2006, 11:48 PM
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Thanks everyone for the responses. It's really the first time I had the problem.

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I noticied the same! About 2 months ago I could get a good page rank in 4 or 5 days. ALL my seo pages had a really good position. But sundally it stoped to happen and MSN did not index any new page of my site.

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Yes... indeed it looks like MSN bot is a little lazy these days, but not something abnormal.

Answering to "luzinha":
1) PR changes are visible at PR updates - there was no period when you could increase the visible PR in 4-5 days, unless it was right before a PR update.
2) PR has no conection with MSN.
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Old August 26th, 2006, 04:13 PM
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Arrow MSN ranks more phrases, overall, lately!

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Yes... indeed it looks like MSN bot is a little lazy these days, but not something abnormal.
"Lazy" or not, the MSN bot is doing a pretty good job--one of the best overall "Big Three" search engine results I've seen this week is for very competitive phrases in a financial niche.

MSN results yield more top tens out of 16 phrases than the other two se's. Five of these phrases have between 131 million to 191 million competing web pages for the terms! --Greg

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Msn Update

Sorry to chime in so late here, but I've been out-of-commission....

MSN rolled out an update on the 23rd, but then then rolled it back 48 hrs later so you should be seeing the same results as before.

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MSN has something wrong somewhere... it gave my website ranks within 2.5 months.. and i am sure that wont last for more than a week.. MSN is fast but Nuts.. just a mere change in title and boom my site on top..lol.. is this what MSN supposed to be?..

Sorry But MSN you need to change..lol

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MSN has something wrong somewhere... it gave my website ranks within 2.5 months.. and i am sure that wont last for more than a week.. MSN is fast but Nuts.. just a mere change in title and boom my site on top..lol.. is this what MSN supposed to be?..

Sorry But MSN you need to change..lol

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That's not a suprise. When I take on a new client I usually get them to the top 5 on MSN and Yahoo within 2 weeks simply by following a template I use...and they stay there as well. Of course they aren't divorce lawyers or rx companies, but they have very competent competition and very competitive keywords.
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Old August 28th, 2006, 10:14 AM
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Gary, I'd like to know your Yahoo secrets... I get the love from MSN but not Yahoo for some reason.

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well Gary, my site is doing well on both yahoo and MSN and is on Second page of SERPS in google.. And as you said, I think thats cool, and for me, its a surprise rather.. and i hope my sites also stay there for a long long time..Man you burnt the fire again.. got all my hopes alive..thanks

I am expecting my site to come down soon as i dont trust MSN much..lesse what happens, Hope MSN turns me down

Sorry for the spelling mistake in the reps.. but it was meant to be "Cool" Instead of Coll..

Whats the template all about? hehe! SEO secret?..lol

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