MSN Search Optimization
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat Forums > Search Engines > MSN Search Optimization
Reload this Page

Is Google Adsense killing my MSN ratings?

Discuss Is Google Adsense killing my MSN ratings? in the MSN Search Optimization forum on SEO Chat.
Is Google Adsense killing my MSN ratings? MSN Search Optimization forum discussing the Microsoft search engine for MSN and Live.com. Find tips to help you get high rankings in Microsoft's search. Discuss what factors are most important to its algorithm.

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
« Previous Thread | Next Thread »  
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old May 23rd, 2005, 11:31 AM
ChrisBergemann ChrisBergemann is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
  
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 64 ChrisBergemann User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 16 h 35 m
Reputation Power: 4
Is Google Adsense killing my MSN ratings?
I have been rapidly trying to change my site so that MSN starts sending me visitors again. One thing I haven't removed is Google Adsense. Has anybody noticed if having Google Adsense hurts your MSN rankings? It would seem logical to me that MSN would not want to send people to a web-page with google adsense on it as it makes Google more money. Any thoughts on this?

Chris.

Relevant Stats on my site... google sends me 1,600 people/day, MSN now sends me 20 people/day.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 23rd, 2005, 11:36 AM
Jasontnyc Jasontnyc is offline
Permanently Banned
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
  
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: St. James Gate
Posts: 1,988 Jasontnyc User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Jasontnyc User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Jasontnyc User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Jasontnyc User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 1 Day 12 h 49 m 31 sec
Warnings Level: 20
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
Out of my sites that do have AdSense my rankings are comparable to what they are in Google. I find that MSN sends a small amount of traffic regardless. They just don't have anywhere close to the market share as Google.

If the ads are making you money then there is no way I would remove them. If they aren't why not remove them as an experiment. I'm willing to bet you see no difference.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 23rd, 2005, 12:02 PM
SEO_AM's Avatar
SEO_AM SEO_AM is online now
B afraid.. B very afraid!
Click here for more information.
  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Land of enchantment... deserts of the Southwest
Posts: 6,229 SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)SEO_AM User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Months 3 Weeks 4 Days 19 h 26 m 29 sec
Reputation Power: 61
There would be little logic to MSN penalizing pages that contain AdSense. Look elsewhere.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 23rd, 2005, 08:26 PM
faremax's Avatar
faremax faremax is offline
Permanently Banned
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NJ and Miami
Posts: 783 faremax User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)faremax User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)faremax User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)faremax User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 4 Days 10 h 11 m 45 sec
Warnings Level: 10
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
These things happen on M as they continue to tweak their algo and filters. We have been hit 3 times already. For 1 month or so #1 then page 3.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 23rd, 2005, 11:16 PM
Mason Mason is offline
Permanently Banned
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
  
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 159 Mason User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 12 h 2 m 13 sec
Warnings Level: 5
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by faremax
These things happen on M as they continue to tweak their algo and filters. We have been hit 3 times already. For 1 month or so #1 then page 3.


I totally hear ya the same thing happened to me funny at first I thought this thread was about making a killing on google adsense so I became really interested but now mehhhh not so much lol.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 6th, 2005, 04:19 PM
75c's Avatar
75c 75c is offline
Contriving Muser
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: $1,500 per sq m
Posts: 1,119 75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 20 h 40 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBergemann
I have been rapidly trying to change my site so that MSN starts sending me visitors again. One thing I haven't removed is Google Adsense. Has anybody noticed if having Google Adsense hurts your MSN rankings? It would seem logical to me that MSN would not want to send people to a web-page with google adsense on it as it makes Google more money. Any thoughts on this?

Chris.

Relevant Stats on my site... google sends me 1,600 people/day, MSN now sends me 20 people/day.


No, AdSense doesn't hurt MSN's ego - I have a site which did fairly well in msn beta but when it moved out of beta, my site disapeared - I was amazed! It didn't show again for a few weeks (can't remember how long) but then came back with a bang and had since occupied the #1 slot (with occasional slips to #2 or #3).

The site in question has adsense.

MCS
x
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 6th, 2005, 04:51 PM
ChrisBergemann ChrisBergemann is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
  
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 64 ChrisBergemann User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 16 h 35 m
Reputation Power: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by minicoopers
No, AdSense doesn't hurt MSN's ego - I have a site which did fairly well in msn beta but when it moved out of beta, my site disapeared - I was amazed! It didn't show again for a few weeks (can't remember how long) but then came back with a bang and had since occupied the #1 slot (with occasional slips to #2 or #3).

The site in question has adsense.

MCS
x


Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Chris.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 6th, 2005, 10:05 PM
4Comparison's Avatar
4Comparison 4Comparison is offline
Punkawalla
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 170 4Comparison User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)4Comparison User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 6 h 55 m 33 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Just had a site jump me into top 5 on a comp. term.

They have AdSense in H1 tags at the top of page.

Odd.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 8th, 2005, 10:01 AM
gabs's Avatar
gabs gabs is offline
;-)
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: London
Posts: 1,325 gabs User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)gabs User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)gabs User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)gabs User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 3 Days 19 h 57 m 18 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Comparison
They have AdSense in H1 tags at the top of page.


IN h1 tags ?
eh???
__________________
-->>Photo gallery <<-- Mortgage link exchanges welcome PM me today UK links directory - add your UK site TODAY!

philips flat screen tvs

flat screen tvs
I want an ipod
www.seohome.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 16th, 2005, 08:38 PM
GeoffreyF67's Avatar
GeoffreyF67 GeoffreyF67 is offline
Resident Black Hat
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 1,436 GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 22 h 29 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Comparison
Just had a site jump me into top 5 on a comp. term.

They have AdSense in H1 tags at the top of page.

Odd.


PM Me a link. I'd like to see that trick.

G-Man
__________________
Black Hat, White Hat and More!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old June 17th, 2005, 05:06 AM
EarlGrey EarlGrey is offline
I love SEO Chat.
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: I love SEO Chat
Posts: 365 EarlGrey User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)EarlGrey User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)EarlGrey User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 7 h 35 m 39 sec
Warnings Level: 10
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
H1 tags.
I dont get it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old June 17th, 2005, 10:57 AM
gchaney's Avatar
gchaney gchaney is offline
Mr. Goober Guy ;)
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 1,321 gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 15 h 57 m 28 sec
Reputation Power: 14
No, look eslewhere. All of my sites have adsense, all hold very high positions for their target phrases in MSN. I could only wish google was as "easy"....lol
__________________
Cheerios!

New to SEO? See the FAQ!

My Disclaimer:
Don't Listen To Me - I know nothing!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old June 20th, 2005, 12:20 AM
crxvfr's Avatar
crxvfr crxvfr is offline
Ditzy
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 741 crxvfr User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)crxvfr User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)crxvfr User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)crxvfr User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)crxvfr User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 1 Day 22 h 35 m 13 sec
Reputation Power: 10
Adsense is compatible
I have a site thats littered with adsense ads on MSN's first page.

H1 tags on adsense ads? Wouldn't they recognize they're own ads?
Don't know about that.

Adsense is javascript. h1 tags usually change the size of the font and table cell. I'd think the h1 tags would be dismissed.

...if they counted their own ads as content keywords they would be stroking themselves, google(master)bation. ...sorry lost my sense of class there for a moment.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat Forums > Search Engines > MSN Search Optimization > Is Google Adsense killing my MSN ratings?

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump


Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support |