I prefer MSN

Google is not my best search engine for my sites. I get most of my hits from MSN.
When you register a new site, like I do quite often, I get hits almost instantly from MSN but it takes weeks before you can even find your url in Google.
I submitted http://www.housesandrentals.com some time ago and it only took a couple of days to get listed in MSN.
I use a stat counter where I can see where my hits come from and it is really different for all sites. Some site have really good hits from MSN and very few from Google and other sites it is the opposite way...
Can't really figure it out!

1- Check out Nielsen NetRatings Search Engine Ratings @ http://searchenginewatch.com/reports/article.php/2156451 that shows the percentage of online searches done by US home and work web surfers in July 2005 that were performed at a particular search engine.



2- Getting listed in G is easy if you know how to. Most SEOs get listed in G in less than 48 hours by placing a link to their quite-new site links on one of their sites that are being crawled by G on daily basis.

3- Now that your site isn't crawled or is still in sandbox by G how will you see the flood of traffic that G can bring to your site.

Hi Guys*....

I think its your WEBSTATS would be able to say which one is better for you. It depends on where you are staying curently, as a newbie site you may find your potential customers coming from MSN instead of Google. For that there are loads of factors playing behind. It varies from site to site.

But also one fact is proven that once you started getting traffic from Google constantly, you will find out that it's Google provides you a good % of your total visitors. So it can be a better idea to target MSN first and then slowly into Google, instead of only relying on MSN and not targetting Google. It can be done easily, but not easily as you gained in MSN, but the efforts WORTH.
Believe Me.....

Right now i am loving MSN and then Yahoo. They are paying the bills right now, esp after this Google update. But in my experience Msn sends me traffic right away!

Once you see the tsunami of traffic from G then you will forget all SEs but G... Believe me!

Sadly, sufyaaan is correct. Dominating an engine like MSN is nice and all, but it doesn't yield that much revenue; having the same rankings on Google would make me a far wealthier man. However, if you build your sites to rank well on MSN (and not to be penalized by obvious filters on Y & G) then you'll really be happy with your decision 1 or 2 years down the line.

yea msn search has impoved for me lately. I have recieved alot more from msn than i use to which is great. The new msn is my new best friend.

I'm also ranked pretty great for some competitve keywords on MSN, still the traffic quantites are low to neglectable, but no matter what, traffic is traffic and I'm happy with it. I'm just working to get ranked high for more keywords and this should yield some higher traffic amounts and of course $

I know how to get into Google. Like you said it is quite easy if you have another site that is already listed. But then from there it takes a lot of work to be on the first pages. I have had sites on the first page for a long time but I guess other sites have "SEO'd" their sites better because my sites have dropped. Instead I have seen a lot of crappy sites listed with no real content, just Google ads and some links to other sites, some of them mine.

Yes - the graph is correct at showing the number of searches performed.

However - if you take into the account of the sandbox and sick penalties applied by G which may place your site in oblivion - then over time - MSN will provide you with INFINATELY MORE traffic than G.

Which is where the number of searches graph becomes irrelevant for sites permanently damaged in G.

Yes - I got a number 1 spot within 3 days on MSN for a brand new domain - now thats a Search ENGINE.

I think G is holding its commitment to give end users a more acurate and authoritative result, as we all know that there are a lot of black hat techniques that other seo do just to make their page on top of the SERP, but come to realize that G's sandbox is a powerful mechansm to prevent gabage site from its SERP.

As for MSN, I know that Microsoft has instilled a legacy in the IT industry, but dont you think that they "trying hard" to be the best in every IT field? These people dont really care if their end user can get quality result from the searches they only care of being popular by allowing new sites to top their SERP. The Microsoft fence are full of discontented and insecure people... "If you eat the largest portion of the pie, more or less you'll find yourself in the (you know where)".

Peace!

As a "webmaster" (yeuch - don't you hate that?) You can't "prefer" any SE - unless it's one that makes you more money.

As a "user" you are permitted to favor a SE. Because you'll favor the one that gives you the information you want or need.

Usually, as a user, you won't "choose" an SE. It'll either be the one provided by your ISP through their portal, or - once you get web-sense, once you've found your feet and become Ms. Internet - you'll start "Googling".

Most "portals" tend to represent Google SERPs , in one way or another. So, as a user you have the choice, but without realizing it, you'll most probably be "chosing" Google.

As a, no - I can't say it again, it digusts me... as a web site promoter, you should learn to HATE all SEs. Don't prefer any one of them - concentrate on all of them. Get a good result in all of them and, then, when you've got a great result in your minority MSN or Yahoo, marvel at the ENORMOUS increase in visits your site gets once it has broken through the Google traps.

Really, don't "prefer" an SE as a site promoter. It'll fuddle your thingies...

Think success. Think Dollars. Aim (at the moment) for Google - use all the LEGITIMATE tricks you can think of, but don't prefer MSN for gods sake...

Don't ignore it either - the visitors who come through MSN are every bit as good as those from elsewhere, but there aren't so many of them.

There might be one day though... so don't switch camps, expand your field of battle

Thingy

I think as SEOs we should keep in mind who our actual customers are. And that as customers, they all have their own unique needs and ways of being cared for.

Our customers are the SEs. Make them happy and the return is viewers.

Other than just the sheer numbers, it depends upon the nature of your site as well. I'm ranked comparably within the top 3 on a certain term and get almost twice as much traffic from Yahoo as Google. Although Google holds a two to one search share advantage, the Yahoo audience apparently is more interested in my subject matter.

No, you won't forget them. You may not be able to find them in your stats, but you should never forget them.... At least, if you're serious about you site's future.

Traffi-wise, Suffyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan is right, for the moment; for the foreseeable future.

But it doesn't take much time to keep your sites going in MSN, Yahoo, etc... take the time, build up some history with these SEs too.

You may not regret it one day... (your grand children may one day shout - "wow, thank god for grandad's foresight". Or, they may not...

Do you really want to disapoint your future grandchildren?

MCS
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