Link Popularity
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesLink Popularity

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old September 29th, 2008, 09:41 AM
Nickyboy65 Nickyboy65 is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5 Nickyboy65 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 27 m 10 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Question Quality links really?

Hi
Here goes on my 2 penith worth.

Over the years I have seen my listing with Google hovering anywhere between page 1 and page 3. Most of my efforts have been geared towards trying to get quality meaningful reciprocal links to other sites, as any SEO aficionado will advise... Well about 6 months ago a new site came bursting onto page 1. I naturally ran it through the backlinks checker (using SEO Elite) and I was expecting to find just this. (I am in the marquee hire industry) Imagine my surprise when I found virtually all the sites that they linked back from were Russian or from the former soviet union, with virtually no backlinks and barely any anchor text. Hah, I thought, they won't last long with all that "junk" in there. They are at the time of writing at position 3 for the search term Marquee hire (but at about 180 in yahoo for the same term). All the other listings, including mine, have what would be as quality links.

I would be interesting to hear your thoughts…..

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 29th, 2008, 10:59 AM
T_Media T_Media is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2 T_Media User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 m 36 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickyboy65
Hi
Here goes on my 2 penith worth.

Over the years I have seen my listing with Google hovering anywhere between page 1 and page 3. Most of my efforts have been geared towards trying to get quality meaningful reciprocal links to other sites, as any SEO aficionado will advise... Well about 6 months ago a new site came bursting onto page 1. I naturally ran it through the backlinks checker (using SEO Elite) and I was expecting to find just this. (I am in the marquee hire industry) Imagine my surprise when I found virtually all the sites that they linked back from were Russian or from the former soviet union, with virtually no backlinks and barely any anchor text. Hah, I thought, they won't last long with all that "junk" in there. They are at the time of writing at position 3 for the search term Marquee hire (but at about 180 in yahoo for the same term). All the other listings, including mine, have what would be as quality links.

I would be interesting to hear your thoughts…..


That's very interesting, could it be referrer spam?

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 29th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Dansk Dansk is offline
I'm No Expert
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 195 Dansk User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Dansk User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Dansk User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 16 h 46 m 22 sec
Reputation Power: 4
Hi -

It happens all the time, a new site appears and then slowley fades away, or sometimes sticks and beats yours - links are a major deal to a site ranking, but dont forget its not everything the on-site stuff really matters as well, i seen sites rank really well just of a good internal link structure alone, it could even just be a case of new site boost ( i consider 6 months a new site), just stick at it, and keep building quality content that will natuarly attract good links and you will soon be knocking them of their perch!

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 29th, 2008, 04:31 PM
googler's Avatar
googler googler is offline
Cool Dude
SEO Chat Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Vancouver, Washington, U.S.A.
Posts: 2,194 googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level)googler User rank is First Lieutenant (10000 - 20000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 3 Days 20 h 52 m 54 sec
Reputation Power: 170
Send a message via AIM to googler Send a message via XFire to googler
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickyboy65

Most of my efforts have been geared towards trying to get quality meaningful reciprocal links to other sites, as any SEO aficionado will advise...


This comment alone tells me that you may have an incorrect view of what a quality link is... Reciprocal links are not the types of "quality" links that I think a true SEO would tell you to go after. Quality is defined how natural a link is and what website that link comes from. By their very nature, reciprocal links are not a natural way to get links, therefore not quality.

Search out one way links.


Sites can burst into the top results when they get a lot of links in a short span of time, however if these links dont pass the quality score the site will eventually fall out, usually within a few days, or even hours in some cases.
__________________
Work Smarter, Not Harder
The Definitive Guide to Page Rank
Link Building 101
PPC 101

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 29th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Niche Niche is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 363 Niche User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Niche User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Niche User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Niche User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Niche User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 12 h 49 m 25 sec
Reputation Power: 10
They must have some great on page SEO
Also what is the PR of the pages linking to them. if these two things are off then you have some really savvy black hat deal going on.
If this is the case, they will soon be gone

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 30th, 2008, 12:47 AM
fathom's Avatar
fathom fathom is online now
rod@spheri.ca
SEO Chat God 14th Plane (11500 - 11999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,969 fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 Months 2 Weeks 3 Days 2 h 53 m 4 sec
Reputation Power: 352
Send a message via MSN to fathom Send a message via Skype to fathom
What makes links from Russia less valuable?
__________________
Fathom @ Twitter "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." -- Aristotle

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old September 30th, 2008, 01:15 AM
gazzahk's Avatar
gazzahk gazzahk is offline
Roll the dice.. and live
Click here for more information.
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,040 gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)gazzahk User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Months 2 Weeks 2 h 36 m 25 sec
Reputation Power: 371
__________________
Live the moment

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old September 30th, 2008, 01:57 AM
full house's Avatar
full house full house is offline
SEO
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Philippines
Posts: 1,018 full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)full house User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 Days 10 h 59 m 50 sec
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to full house Send a message via Google Talk to full house
Does does link relevant to yours? If you link to Russian site and your site is US this would look spam, not unless the content is English and same niche.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old September 30th, 2008, 08:10 AM
Nickyboy65 Nickyboy65 is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5 Nickyboy65 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 27 m 10 sec
Reputation Power: 0
I though "quality links" mean ones that are relevant to the vertical market. So as all the links are on pages that have abousolutley nothing to do with the marquee hire industry AND they are in Russian, i would deem this as not a quality link. Am i correct, you tell me? I don't know enough about this stuff to comment confidently

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old September 30th, 2008, 08:32 AM
fathom's Avatar
fathom fathom is online now
rod@spheri.ca
SEO Chat God 14th Plane (11500 - 11999 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,969 fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)fathom User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 Months 2 Weeks 3 Days 2 h 53 m 4 sec
Reputation Power: 352
Send a message via MSN to fathom Send a message via Skype to fathom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickyboy65
I though "quality links" mean ones that are relevant to the vertical market. So as all the links are on pages that have abousolutley nothing to do with the marquee hire industry AND they are in Russian, i would deem this as not a quality link. Am i correct, you tell me? I don't know enough about this stuff to comment confidently


Related to less related is like poker. A pair of two's is "related to the best hand" against every single "ace high" in the world but not if you get bluffed into folding.

Quality beat quantity but only to a degree that quantity doesn't have even 1 quality and because you can only see a sampling of their links [as little as 1%] means you are guessing that they don't have any quality... but they wouldn't beat you in ranks so they have at least a comparable quality as you and their quantity can then be the difference.

Last edited by fathom : September 30th, 2008 at 08:45 AM.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesLink Popularity > Quality links really?


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump




 Free IT White Papers!
 
Create the Optimal Architecture for your Critical Applications
Warburton's the largest independently owned bakery in the UK faced a number of difficult challenges in providing the most robust yet efficient IT infrastructure for their organization's success. IBM's services combined with their xSeries servers created the perfect platform for their SAP environment with sufficient flexibility, and did so in very time effective fashion.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Five Best Practices for Deploying a Successful Service-Oriented Architecture
This white paper describes the benefits you can expect with SOA, and how IBM can help take your business there.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Gartner Magic Quadrant for Application Delivery Controllers
Gartner summarizes its view on Application Delivery Controllers, evaluates strengths and weaknesses of solutions, and provides Magic Quadrant reporting for a quick comparison across all vendors. Learn from Gartner how you can benefit from an all-in-one device like Citrix NetScaler that delivers the highest levels of availability, performance and security.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Knowledge is Power
What you don't know can hurt you, and is likely costing you money and increasing your security risks during an era of scarce resources. This white paper proposes six key strategies that enterprise security managers can use to improve their network defense posture.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Rationalizing the Multi-Tool Environment
The rationalized multi-tool approach is flexible, scalable and cost effective. It provides the necessary input to the IT service management business processes. It preserves prior investments in monitoring tools, empowers technologists to select the best tools with which to do their jobs, and enhances effective response to incidents.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 




© 2003-2010 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 12 Hosted by Hostway
For more Enterprise Application Development news, visit eWeek