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Old August 18th, 2008, 09:51 AM
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Hi there guys,
Most probably the answer of my questions is already in the forum somewhere, but I am afraid I could not find it.

A - If a domain.com has PR 6 and you have a backlink to your site from domain.com/somepage.html with PR 0. Do you get any juice at all? If not, what is the point of linking to this page? [I believe I got an idea from the previous thread but will appreciate another point of view]

B - When I check the backlinks with a website tool like smartpagerank.com I got around 150.

The results with a program like SEO Elite are quite different. i.e. less links.

Moreover, when checking with the Google toolbar I have less than 20.

C - Some tools divide the backlinks to Google ones, Yahoo ones, etc. What is the difference? Suppose I target a link from a site X. How do I know if that will give me "Google" link, "Yahoo" or "Live" one?

Thank you in advance and sorry if that is the n-th time you see these questions.
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Hi there guys,
Most probably the answer of my questions is already in the forum somewhere, but I am afraid I could not find it.

A - If a domain.com has PR 6 and you have a backlink to your site from domain.com/somepage.html with PR 0. Do you get any juice at all? If not, what is the point of linking to this page? [I believe I got an idea from the previous thread but will appreciate another point of view]

B - When I check the backlinks with a website tool like smartpagerank.com I got around 150.

The results with a program like SEO Elite are quite different. i.e. less links.

Moreover, when checking with the Google toolbar I have less than 20.

C - Some tools divide the backlinks to Google ones, Yahoo ones, etc. What is the difference? Suppose I target a link from a site X. How do I know if that will give me "Google" link, "Yahoo" or "Live" one?

Thank you in advance and sorry if that is the n-th time you see these questions.
Bob
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Old August 25th, 2008, 02:39 AM
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The point of linking to a pr0 is the importance of the page. Importance in not measured of what pr a page has, content comes first.


Thanx feras80. So I guess the importance of a link like that is the traffic since it won't give any "link juice".

Still, can anyone explain what is the difference between "Google links", "Yahoo links", etc. When you use "link:" feature of Google it displays as a result only part of your actual links. The others are listed as Yahoo, Live, All the web links... Why is that?

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Hi there guys,
Most probably the answer of my questions is already in the forum somewhere, but I am afraid I could not find it.

A - If a domain.com has PR 6 and you have a backlink to your site from domain.com/somepage.html with PR 0. Do you get any juice at all? If not, what is the point of linking to this page? [I believe I got an idea from the previous thread but will appreciate another point of view]


Page rank of the page from where you are getting link is being counted not the PR of the site.

Page Rank is not a factor which can decide whether you are going to get link juice or not. If the page from where you are getting the link is relevant with your page, you will surely get some benefits from that. Also the page should not be black listed in Google.

Remember one thing, a link pointing to you site will always bring something to your site. It can be benefits for search engine ranking or visitors or PR.

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B - When I check the backlinks with a website tool like smartpagerank.com I got around 150.

The results with a program like SEO Elite are quite different. i.e. less links.

Moreover, when checking with the Google toolbar I have less than 20.

C - Some tools divide the backlinks to Google ones, Yahoo ones, etc. What is the difference? Suppose I target a link from a site X. How do I know if that will give me "Google" link, "Yahoo" or "Live" one?

Thank you in advance and sorry if that is the n-th time you see these questions.
Bob


Different tools have different strategy for identify the back links and how to show them. Thats why you can find difference in the result.

Incoming links don;t have any category such as Google Links, Yahoo Links etc. They are known as inbound links for your site, that's it.

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Thanx new_seo.
When I am using the made up words like "Google link" "Yahoo link" I mean that when using "link:" tool in Google I get as a result 12 pages with links. In fact I have at least 120 when checking with online link tools.

Anyway, thanx a lot!

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Thanx new_seo.
When I am using "Google link" "Yahoo link" I mean that when using "link:" tool in Google I get as a result 12 pages with links. In fact I have at least 120 when checking with online link tools.

Anyway, thanx a lot!

One suggestion for you, just concentrate on building quality inbound links for your site. Don't worry about which tool is showing how many back links for your site.

Search Engine Rankings and hits from referrals sites are the best tool to judge how many inbound links you have.
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One suggestion for you, just concentrate on building quality inbound links for your site. Don't worry about which tool is showing how many back links for your site.

Search Engine Rankings and hits from referrals sites are the best tool to judge how many inbound links you have.


Thanx mate. Actually, I've managed to get our corporate site from Google pages 9 and 13 to SERP on page 1 in a relatively competitive market as the hotel business, but the good results are mainly due to HTML rebuilding. That is why I am digging deaper in the long-term "link part" of the SEO.

Thanx again.

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Thanx mate. Actually, I've managed to get our corporate site from Google pages 9 and 13 to SERP on page 1 in a relatively competitive market as the hotel business, but the good results are mainly due to HTML rebuilding. That is why I am digging deaper in the long-term "link part" of the SEO.

Thanx again.

I think you need more keywords research check your keywords competition use https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

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Thanx feras80. So I guess the importance of a link like that is the traffic since it won't give any "link juice".

Still, can anyone explain what is the difference between "Google links", "Yahoo links", etc. When you use "link:" feature of Google it displays as a result only part of your actual links. The others are listed as Yahoo, Live, All the web links... Why is that?

Thank you.

use google webmaster tool

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use google webmaster tool


Thanx Prof.stan.
I use the Google webmaster tool and find it useful. All in all as said the rankings are quite well. You can check the website address in my profile. Our SERP in Google for keywords "hotel Malta" and "Malta hotel" are on the 1st page considering that we were around page 10 when I started taking care of it 2 months ago.
However, the site doesn't have many links and the current priority is link building. Have a look at the following figures please:

Total 398
Google-10
Yahoo-121
Live-110
AllTheWeb-79
AltaVista-78

These are the number of links I have according to seocentro's online link popularity tool. What one of my initial questions was:

How come some of the links are under Google and others are under other search engines? Any ideas?

Thanx.

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Thanx Prof.stan.
I use the Google webmaster tool and find it useful. All in all as said the rankings are quite well. You can check the website address in my profile. Our SERP in Google for keywords "hotel Malta" and "Malta hotel" are on the 1st page considering that we were around page 10 when I started taking care of it 2 months ago.
However, the site doesn't have many links and the current priority is link building. Have a look at the following figures please:

Total 398
Google-10
Yahoo-121
Live-110
AllTheWeb-79
AltaVista-78

These are the number of links I have according to seocentro's online link popularity tool. What one of my initial questions was:

How come some of the links are under Google and others are under other search engines? Any ideas?

Thanx.

Different search engines have different algo.
Get backlinks from relevant website use targeted keywords in your anchor tag.

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Hi there guys,
Most probably the answer of my questions is already in the forum somewhere, but I am afraid I could not find it.

A - If a domain.com has PR 6 and you have a backlink to your site from domain.com/somepage.html with PR 0. Do you get any juice at all? If not, what is the point of linking to this page? [I believe I got an idea from the previous thread but will appreciate another point of view]

B - When I check the backlinks with a website tool like smartpagerank.com I got around 150.

The results with a program like SEO Elite are quite different. i.e. less links.

Moreover, when checking with the Google toolbar I have less than 20.

C - Some tools divide the backlinks to Google ones, Yahoo ones, etc. What is the difference? Suppose I target a link from a site X. How do I know if that will give me "Google" link, "Yahoo" or "Live" one?

Thank you in advance and sorry if that is the n-th time you see these questions.
Bob


Thanks for trying to find answer before posting new thread and Welcome to the forum Bob !


The Page Rank distribution reflects all crawled pages in a site, not just the home page.
If the linking page is thematically relevant to your site, then even a PR0 page of PR6 site would pass on some of its trust and link juice to you depending on the number of outbound links on that page.


Link command in Google shows only random sample of links.
Google webmaster central will show you a larger sample of incoming links, still not all.
Yahoo site explorer will show you all the back links including no-followed ones.
That’s why the different link counts.

Go for Trust Rank ( domain trust / authority ) ~ PR and everything else will follow....

Best luck !
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