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Old February 10th, 2003, 07:33 AM
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Google website link popularity

When I check link popularity for our company and clients websites, i.e. typing 'Link:www.stuartlawrence.com' into the search box, only a certain number of incoming links are listed. For example I know our website is listed with several directories with hot links though not all of them are shown as part of this list. These directories are listed with Google seperately, so why is the link connection not shown?

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Old February 10th, 2003, 07:45 AM
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Google only shows backlinks from pages of PR4 or more. To see all your links you should do a search for your domain name in quotes or use another search engine like Alltheweb.

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Old February 10th, 2003, 08:54 AM
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Tool

A good tool for this kind of link popularity research is the market leap one.

http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/

(left hand column)

I also have a similar one myself...
http://www.abakus-internet-marketing.de/tools/online-tools.htm#lp

Alltheweb tend to give the most accurate results.

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not true...

if the sites that links to your site got a pr at all, even if its less than 3 or 2 they will be listed.
the only web site that will not be listed are the web sites that have'nt been ranked at all.... 0pr....


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Old February 10th, 2003, 09:02 AM
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Actually Gringos right.

Check it out using the google tool bar and use the tool above to see how vastly less Google links there are compared to allthweb. Google doe not even list all PR4+ websites. It depends how long they have been and some unknown factors as well.

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Old February 10th, 2003, 09:06 AM
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Thanks so much to you all. As a newcomer to news forum postings I have found your advice very useful and will definitely become a regular 'poster' on this site.

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Webby,
my mistake, you are right, i was confusing it with another engine.
but than again, if alltheweb recognize the exchnge with web sites ranked less than 4 and google communicate with alltheweb too, as far as i know, so i guess it still good to exchange links with them...
for other search engines and for google search engine.
dunno,
I have this new theory in my head now, maybe its better to have 100 good link exchange with 100 with pr4 rather than 1000 with pr3 or less....
but than will you be targeting only google?

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SE Boom - almost all links are good links and they will all count towards your PR and rankings, even if Google doesn't list them with the backlink check.

Imagine a link on a PR3 page - maybe after the next update this page will be a PR4 or more

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You are right to a piont. If my site had a pr 3. I would rather have 5 pr 5 sites linking to it than 15 pr2. ther eis a certain ratio to it but äI forget what it is. Every link helps but some help more than others :-)

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Well that will help you with your PR, certainly. But almost any link will help you with your search rankings if it uses the right anchor text

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Well that will help you with your PR, certainly. But almost any link will help you with your search rankings if it uses the right anchor text

If I understand what you guys are saying is that the link from another site should be your keyword? Most of my incoming links from other sites or directories are just my URL I am not given a choice when i submit to them as to what the link text will be. I do intend to build other sites and link them giving me more control, but until then,...... any good link in is helpful right? What about these free directories that let anybody list with them? Susan

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Susan - all links will help you to some degree but yes, if the link is your keyword or keywords it will help you much more. Of course, normally you can't control how other people link to you, although when requesting reciprocal links many people now even do it with the html code ready-made for a copy/paste.

If you create other sites to link to yours, be careful about cross-linking, because Google will penalise it if you overdo it. You can read a little more on cross-linking here ...
http://www.seochat.com/viewtopic.php?t=156

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Old February 11th, 2003, 09:05 AM
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Thanks Gringo for the warning. I don't think I'm in danger though as my server is a huge national one and even the two sites I have now are on different addresses. Plus I'm very legal on all my stuff, have to be if I want to feed my kids! When I do another site it will be a community site about events in the area ect, a Non_profit deal. Sure, I'll target keywords to get the traffic and provide real estate links to my other sites. But no tricks. Here is a question though. Should there only be one link to my site? Per domain? Per page? In other words how many outgoing links to another specfic site is too many? Thanks Susan

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No problem with having several (or even many) outgoing links to a certain site, although it could be getting into a grey area if that site links back.

Try at least to break the pattern by not always using the same link text. Also, Google recommends not to put more than 100 links on 1 page.

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Thanks,
I'm smll potato's compared to most of you guys so 100 links on one page is a lot for me. Course I want to link the sites togther but I could do that on a deeper page on my sales sites like the community pages three pages deep. Would that help?
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