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Finding a good quality link builder

Can anyone advise me on how I can find a good quality link builder out there.

I've done a lot of SEO for my site but one thing which I simply cannot do, I find it almost impossible, is link building.

I am improving content on my website constantly for link bait, but need someone who can build good links for me. I've hired a couple of people but the links i'm given are not showing on google backlinks, and although they have PR3-5, I got no idea how they acheived that because these sites linking to me have no registered backlinks in google.

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Can anyone advise me on how I can find a good quality link builder out there.

I've done a lot of SEO for my site but one thing which I simply cannot do, I find it almost impossible, is link building.

I am improving content on my website constantly for link bait, but need someone who can build good links for me. I've hired a couple of people but the links i'm given are not showing on google backlinks, and although they have PR3-5, I got no idea how they acheived that because these sites linking to me have no registered backlinks in google.


First... what does your webmaster console say? The public link command isn't an accurate representation of backlinks in Google.

No matter http://www.catchnrelease.me is a good alternative http://www.catchnrelease.me/downloads/catchnre-lease-me-client.pdf

Technically the links are free... we develop the linkbait to ensure the links are Google worthy.
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 03:27 AM
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First... what does your webmaster console say? The public link command isn't an accurate representation of backlinks in Google.

No matter http://www.catchnrelease.me is a good alternative http://www.catchnrelease.me/downloads/catchnre-lease-me-client.pdf

Technically the links are free... we develop the linkbait to ensure the links are Google worthy.

It may worthy in competitive keywords like seo company, Search engine optimization, SEO Services if yes then make me clear I am going to quote you.
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 04:56 AM
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It may worthy in competitive keywords like seo company, Search engine optimization, SEO Services if yes then make me clear I am going to quote you.


I'm not sure I follow?

I try hard not to merely self-promote... I find that offering a wealth of knowledge is a better motivator to separate those they will never pay to securing those that use you because they trust you. The less "wooing" I do the more productive I am... as such let's discuss competitive keywords...

Competitiveness is a matter of perspective... if you have a resource like SEOChat, Wikipedia, SEOMoz - getting to the top ranks for Search Engine Optimization is relatively easy... thus "competitvely" the term isn't a major challenge...

If you merely got a domain with "service pages"... you clearly have a challenge ahead of you...

1. No reason for anyone to link to you without you sweeting the pie [greasing their palms or offering some self-serving benefit for those links]

2. Costs... greasing costs alot because you can't do it with links from a single domain so you got to grease "everyone"... if you don't have a resource useful to others [normally for free]

3. Longevity... you can only go so far with any "link schemes".... e.g. reciprocal links, PPI directories, text link brokerage, scamming SBM resources with multiple logins, and even CnR general domains... all of these offer "a good boost" but none of these have "staying power"... so the question everyone need to ask themselves "what's next?" ..."where do we go from here?"

4. Most link strategies [or schemes] have advantages and I'm sure everyone selling theirs, focuses peoples' attention on the plus side and tries to avoid directly discussing the disadvantages... me... I'll approach this from the same position I do with anyone else that promotes a certain mindset... as "must do".

The general domains are a placebo that works on a headache... a sugar pill does cure the headache right up until; the person learns it's a sugar pill...

The general domains will work exceptionally well right up until everyone is doing it and Google targets these strategies as a manipulation practices... but even then that's an advantage... it isn't in Google's radar and few others are advertising so it's Longevity... is quite secure right now... and that isn't the end objective either.

Consequently this strategy favors Eastern Cultured SEO's servicing customers [where ever]... for a few reasons:
1. They adapt to change easily... they're practices have not been "timed honored" like many Western firms still working with depreciated doctrine and living on their past achievements

2. Labor is inexpensive to start with and if your link strategy is superior you don't need to invest alot of people hours per contract

3. I really don't want nor desire the glory of "who got the ranks"... if their link strategy is 'outsourced' and that's a secret to their client... so long as the client get's their "top ranks"... who cares?

I started this project almost 2 years ago but a heart attack shelved it... no matter people's results are "confidential" as they should be... if they wish to share that's their right... but this is a learning environment.

Content is the driving force... To achieve prominent placement in major search engines, business owners must draw on the power of useful, meaningful, interesting and copyrighted content. Not just any content, but content that answers questions for the reader and offers resources to better understand the value of the goods and services being offered by a website. Clearly, finding a means to provide web searchers with better reasons to visit your website is a way to increase your value in cyberspace and promote your reputation as a website of integrity.

That might sound like alot of promotional bull but it is precisely "the Google answer"...

Unfortunately, it is difficult to get anyone to enormously invest in content because they can't easily see the forest or the trees because the commercial building are in the way. As such... I know that value of the content... I'll invest and offer what everyone wants... links!

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Competitiveness is a matter of perspective... if you have a resource like SEOChat, Wikipedia, SEOMoz - getting to the top ranks for Search Engine Optimization is relatively easy... thus "competitvely" the term isn't a major challenge...

If you merely got a domain with "service pages"... you clearly have a challenge ahead of you...

1. No reason for anyone to link to you without you sweeting the pie [greasing their palms or offering some self-serving benefit for those links


I agree with you but for small firm it is not possible to create resource some thing like seochat, wikkipedia, or seomoz they do link building lets example of Emerson’s website wwwdot smart- traffic dot co. uk this website is ranking well in goole.com and google.co.uk with seo copany and seo companies just because of link building and another example of submit express this website is also ranking well in Google with many of seo related keywords also main reason of link building.

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I agree with you but for small firm it is not possible to create resource some thing like seochat, wikkipedia, or seomoz they do link building lets example of Emerson’s website wwwdot smart- traffic dot co. uk this website is ranking well in goole.com and google.co.uk with seo copany and seo companies just because of link building and another example of submit express this website is also ranking well in Google with many of seo related keywords also main reason of link building.


You're looking at it that "it can't be done"... where "they did it" so obviously "it can be"!

You're missing the fact that they didn't start that way... in fact, if you look at SEOMoz and Rand... in the late summer of 2004 Rand was caught using robots.txt file to disallow bots to link pages of his client site http://forums.seochat.com/seo-help-general-chat-16/public-apology-for-my-bad-behavior-15002.html that was only 4 years ago... and SEOmoz wasn't even started yet... 4 years later every serious client is paying $120K/year... you can be sure he isn't still doing reciprocal links with that doe.

SEOMoz was a one-man "small business" show for over a year [or 2] - the only difference is [IMHO I don't really know the internal story of SEMoz] someone started "planning" in advance.

Link development for any SEO is a necessity, right there with having a PC and the Internet... so the only thing you need to do is budget for links accordingly... but that budget is costly if you're not investing is content.

The task of developing a Wikipedia might seem daunting... but it only seems that way... that resource had/has 10,000's content developers - the cost for any one is in dollars was $0, in development time - 'most' only a few hours... how daunting is that.

The big difference is organization... 10,000 unorganized content developers are, well, like things are now with most new SEOs struggling to remain afloat with 1 client... but any SEO that joins "with a client" get their SEO site done for free... simply because... "if the strategy can help a SEO get more clients - that's more people sharing in the cost for developing better content".

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Fathom I like your way to convincing now I am working for a SEO company in India but I was planning established my own business from two years but still planning one of my colleague establish a seo company and doing well in seo industries having good projects some of from outsourcing some of link building projects.
But not it is enough I read your articles and I impress you give me example of seomoz, so I am going to start my own company I need your suggestions please advice me.

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Fathom I like your way to convincing now I am working for a SEO company in India but I was planning established my own business from two years but still planning one of my colleague establish a seo company and doing well in seo industries having good projects some of from outsourcing some of link building projects.
But not it is enough I read your articles and I impress you give me example of seomoz, so I am going to start my own company I need your suggestions please advice me.


The first thing I would do is start a new thread "Starting a SEO Company".
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Will it be possible to provide us a link of your site so we can review? If not, feel free to pm me the link and I will give you a free review of your site and recommendations on how to improve it. When it comes to link building, I really don't find it difficult. It is time consuming but not difficult. All you need is patience. If you don't have one then I don't have any answer for you. How old is your site? This is also an important thing to consider. You can also use google webmaster tools to monitor your site. IF you have a budget, buy some software and they will guide you through the process. If you prefer to do it manually, be patient and work hard for those precious links.

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Do you think any software guide you properly?

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It really depends on how you use it. I use directory submitter in submitting my sites to directories but i dont run it automatically, I prefer to do it manually to ensure listing. I just use it for easy directory list..instead of looking/searching for directories to submit, it will provide you the list...all you have to do is submit.

But after submitting to those directories, i also submit manually through searching.There is no better way but submitting manually. Just use the software for their listing..that is just my opinion.Many will do it automatically but I prefer manual.

I hope It helps.

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It really depends on how you use it. I use directory submitter in submitting my sites to directories but i dont run it automatically, I prefer to do it manually to ensure listing. I just use it for easy directory list..instead of looking/searching for directories to submit, it will provide you the list...all you have to do is submit.

But after submitting to those directories, i also submit manually through searching.There is no better way but submitting manually. Just use the software for their listing..that is just my opinion.Many will do it automatically but I prefer manual.

I hope It helps.


Softwares never helped me. I tried many in the last few years with no results.

The last 8 months I've been working on making natural links and that has given me google 1st page results for many of the sites I've been working on.

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