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    Keywords are no fun...


    Hi all,

    For keyword research, the google keyword tool is great!... well I'm starting to think otherwise - I'm guessing probably because I'm not using it correctly.


    What I'm doing-

    Basically I'm looking up lets say (for example) "how to cook an egg"..

    I paste the exact and global results into excel, organize in numerical order and then starting at the bottom of the list plugging in keywords that have about 480 searches a month going up to about 3 or 4000. Each keyword I plug into a second browser with google and then search individually in " " for the particular keyword. This is how I find the competition.

    The competition is almost always in the 10,000 and up. C'mon google! there's still gotta be some good keywords still available...

    My questions to you is...

    Whats a good rule of thumb?

    Should I pony up and buy market samurai? Is it better than the free keyword tool? I tried the trial, liked it, but didn't know anything different. 100$ is alot of money... especially in this economy


    Is the money word matrix right on bullseye? or way way off?

    What is your rule of thumb?

    Thanks!

    any info would help.... ;)
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    If you don't like keyword research and $100 is a lot of money then you better not buy it.

    From reading your post we are unable to understand your goals.

    Keyword research is usually done when you are launching a new website or a new folder on an existing website. It is used to identify the range of potential search queries and use that as a guide for the development of content, the construction of landing pages or the targets of your PPC campaign.

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    Originally Posted by jt47000
    The competition is almost always in the 10,000 and up. C'mon google! there's still gotta be some good keywords still available...
    The only competition I recognise is the 10 sites on the first page.. everyone else is not important.

    Look into those first 10 and if you feel like you can take them then have at it.
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    First 10 are the big ones


    Do the keyword research based on the sites that are being indexed for the phrase... the 1st and 2nd page will give you a good determination if you can rank well for what you are trying to achieve.

    Good Luck,

    JC
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    scott and clickjc

    You're saying search for the "phrase" instead of "exact" and "broad"?

    What's the difference?

    And when you find those ten results or the results on the first two pages? How do you figure out if you can compete with them or not?

    I'm guessing that's where market samurai comes in right..

    Thanks for all your help!
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    Originally Posted by jt47000
    How do you figure out if you can compete with them or not?

    I'm guessing that's where market samurai comes in right..

    Thanks for all your help!
    Well just a simple glance at titles and the pages you can see if they are optimized for that keyword and looking at the pages pagerank can be a quick indication if they are a serious authority or they just so happen to be their because no one is really competing for it.. so just a quick browse over pages should give you a rough idea and an indication if you need to have a more in-depth look or it is not going to be worth bothering with.

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    I had the same problem with google keyword tool. For me, it's too complicate to use it correctly, so I choose another keyword research tool, squirrly seo.

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