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Old February 29th, 2008, 01:07 PM
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Title, description and keyword field question.

Being a newbie and TOTALLY inexperienced at writing any kind of code, I read that using the right kind of language is key. I have written these three fields for search optimization and was wondering if anyone could offer me any suggestions, if they can be improved:

<title> - Spanish translation quality info, spanish translation, english to spanish tranlstion, spanish translators, all kinds of Spanish translation</title>

<meta name="description" content="Spanish Translation-Spanish to English transation, everything Spanish translation, whether you're looking for spanish translators or any kind of spanish translation, our site provides you with everything you will need for Spanish Translation and taking care of your translation." />

<meta name="keywords" content="get spanish translation, spanish to english translation, english to spanish translation, spanish translators, translation" />

I have a translation company that specializes in Spanish translation.

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Old February 29th, 2008, 01:21 PM
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If I'm reading this on your site, I (my opinion only) would think its a bit spammy. You can see that you are trying hard to get the keywords spanish and translation into your title and description. I would suggest writing a more natural title that flows a little better and doesnt look like you are trying to stuff it with keywords. Be sure to describe each page with the title tag.

On a side note, in this example, the only main factor that will help you with rankings is your title tag. The meta description tag only helps if the search engine doesnt take a snippet from your main content. The meta description gives you an opportunity to add a small snippet of information below your link in the results that may help the visitor click your link. The keywords meta does nothing in terms of ranking. It is no longer a ranking factor. Many may disagree but I use all 3 tags for some of the smaller search engines, in case they still use the tags as part of their algorithm.

Most of the above applies to Google but I wouldnt stress so much on the keywords tag or the description tag in terms of ranking. Spend some time creating unique content and building quality links to your site.

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tag question

Thank you for your quick response.
I will endevour to make the title less, spammy. It may have been overkill. I am using joomla which doesn't allow me to go into the code directly. So I have had to make do by turning off the meta settings and filling in the fields that correspond to all three for each content page and menus. It takes a long time, but I have heard that, with good usable content and links, it is worth the effort.
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thats right... you over repeat the word spanish and translation..
i think it would be appropriate if you use one phrase as title..
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If you decide that it is important to cover all of those terms in your title, you may want to consider creating separate pages for each term. This will give you:
- More chances to rank better for your chosen terms targeting 1 or 2 terms per page (especially if those terms are competitive)
- More content for the search engines to crawl and index
- Better opportunities to build quality links to each page by using specific anchor text (varying the terms of course) and creating more authority for your pages

Always be sure to write your titles and content naturally. As much as we all want to be highly recognized by SE's for our chosen keyterms, we want our readers and visitors to recognize our site and easily understand our message.

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thats right... you over repeat the word spanish and translation..
i think it would be appropriate if you use one phrase as title..


Allright. First try. Will use more natural sounding titles.
Thanks for your advice.
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Separate keywords for pages

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If you decide that it is important to cover all of those terms in your title, you may want to consider creating separate pages for each term. This will give you:
- More chances to rank better for your chosen terms targeting 1 or 2 terms per page (especially if those terms are competitive)
- More content for the search engines to crawl and index
- Better opportunities to build quality links to each page by using specific anchor text (varying the terms of course) and creating more authority for your pages

Always be sure to write your titles and content naturally. As much as we all want to be highly recognized by SE's for our chosen keyterms, we want our readers and visitors to recognize our site and easily understand our message.


Great information. Thank you. I was not aware of this. I have quite a lot of niched content which is also a LOT of reference material outside of the scope of just spanish translation. ( Again I wanted to make the site useful as an information/reference tool) This could be very useful.
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The best titles don't repeat any words - and if the word is in the title you shouldn't waste the characters in the description on them - get different ones [synonyms and other useful terms]...

And don't forget Meta Descriptions increase your CTR - to what level -- that's a tight-lip secret of the experts.
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i think you should write a title in such a way that people will understand your business segment area., only putting keywords would not help you a lot.
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Great information. Thank you. I was not aware of this. I have quite a lot of niched content which is also a LOT of reference material outside of the scope of just spanish translation. ( Again I wanted to make the site useful as an information/reference tool) This could be very useful.
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I second that thank you. Your suggestion about targeting keywords for the benefit of higher quality content and more of it is one of the best explanations I've heard when it comes to determining which keywords to use and when it's too much

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If you are using this title desc for search engines then ok it will work if you are backing it up with other seo processes like link exchange, blogging, social bookmarking, dir submission etc.
But if it is for visitors then you should try to make it attractive rater than making it spammy.

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If you are using this title desc for search engines then ok it will work if you are backing it up with other seo processes like link exchange, blogging, social bookmarking, dir submission etc.
But if it is for visitors then you should try to make it attractive rater than making it spammy.
That's a "strange" post jaf... for (at least) 3 reasons:

1. I would bet money that he means "for search engines", (otherwise why would he post the question in an seo forum)?
2. What do you mean by "ok it will work"?
3. Whatever methods he uses for "backing it up" won't make it a good title.
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