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Old June 27th, 2004, 02:09 PM
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Question about what this guy is doing...

Ok, I'm curious to see what you all think about the following website... I've had my eye on it as of late and it's obvious the guy really knows what he's doing...

I'm assuming he's doing some type of cloaking... but do any of you know why his index page redirects from

www . prevention . com

to www . prevention . com/cda/cda2002/0,,s1-999,00.html

This site may even be run by one of seochat's members ;-)

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Old June 27th, 2004, 02:24 PM
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If you're quick on stopping the redirect, the view source shows the redirect script and it mentions the url msn.prevention.com . So, my guess is that either the site is affiliated with msn in some way and they have changed their url, or it's some kind of browser detection thing. But just a guess...
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Old June 28th, 2004, 11:13 AM
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<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
	<!-- hide from non-JavaScript browsers

	rexp = /msn.prevention.com/
	if(rexp.test(location.host)) {
		//document.writeln("<h2 align=center>Please wait...</h2><p>");
		//document.writeln("<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font size=2 color=#FFFFFF>Host: " + location.host + "</font><p>");
		//document.writeln("<font size=2 color=#FFFFFF>Destination: msn.prevention.com</font>");
		setTimeout("window.top.location.href = 'http://msn.prevention.com/cda/cda2002/0,,s2-999,00.html'", 0000);
	} else {
		//document.writeln("<h2 align=center>Please wait...</h2><p>");
		//document.writeln("<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font size=2 color=#FFFFFF>Host: " + location.host + "</font><p>");
		//document.writeln("<font size=2 color=#FFFFFF>Destination: www.prevention.com</font>");
		window.top.location.href = "http://www.prevention.com/cda/cda2002/0,,s1-999,00.html";
	};
	
	// end hide from browsers -->
</SCRIPT>


Here is the javascript that is doing the redirect.
Im no javascript junkie, but it looks like hes definately trying to dish out a different page to different users (location,host?).....
Not sure if its legit or not....

Anyone fluent in javascript wanna help out and let us know what this does?

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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:43 PM
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I think I get it

he tests to see if the top frame has an address of the .com and if it does, he writes a 'please wait' type message and replaces the location with the url to redirect to.

If javascript is disabled he uses an old fashioned meta refresh to bounce to the target page.

All of these things are rumoured to be checked by google and could get him banned

I think googles (testbot) logic is something like :

If page contains 'META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh"' or page contains 'top.location.href' then dont bother indexing it or following it because it's a big pile of spamming poo

perhaps

other things it might look for are window.location.refresh and that whole set of object calls


why doesnt he just make his index page more interesting so the user clicketyclickclicks through to the content themselves ?

dunno

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You just get a different top banner depending on whether you arrive at the site using address msn . prevention . com or www . prevention . com. I don't think there's anything sinister there to trick the search engines. It's a Vignette CMS site.

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hey callenb,

what keyword did you use to find this site? I'd like to see what it looks like in the SERPs.

This is a site that probably has frequent homepage updates.. maybe this redirect is some method of keeping their rankings from jumping all over the place and yo-yoing.
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hmm

EGOL, like you say, like to see how he ranks then because there's not really anything there and I'd be surprised if G gets past the index, unless he's got links into the deeper pages

all seems a bit pointless to me

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