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Old January 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM
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Which would rank better?

All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:

A PR1 page on a PR8 website

OR

A PR2 page on a PR3 website

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If you are refering to SERP placement... PR has nothing to do with where a page is placed within the SERPs.

One possible exception to the above would be if two pages are equal in the eyes of Google as far as relevance to the search query... the page (not the site) with the higher PR may rank higher in that one query. Page rank (PR) is page related not site related.

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All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:

A PR1 page on a PR8 website

OR

A PR2 page on a PR3 website

?


The fact that the pages have different PRs implies that all other things can't be equal.

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How can is it possible that all thing will be equal it’s just a kid dish statement if you would like to know about SERPs then pr is not important.
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All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:
A PR1 page on a PR8 website
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A PR2 page on a PR3 website?

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Google dont rank your site in a particular keyword search according to PR. Google rank it according to the page relevancy they find your site. And giving it a skin that you wanted to have is not an easy task. don't get confuse too much...Just keep on reading and learn, thats how we all start.

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All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:

A PR1 page on a PR8 website

OR

A PR2 page on a PR3 website

?


If all other things are equal, then technically the page with the higher PR will have an edge over the other.

Greater PR indicates a higher relative link popularity, that may or may not be relevant link popularity but even irrelevant links are not dry, they still are helpful.

Also a page which has a higher PR [8] should also have decent PR [3 and above] on its internal pages as well [assuming that the site has a smooth internal navigation without nofollows on internal links] This means that more and more pages of the site are in the Google main index and hence the page has a higher number of internal pages linking to it [links from supplemental pages don't carry with them any value]

All this puts the PR 8 or any other higher PR page in an advantageous position in the SERP when compared to a lower PR page.
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The fact that the pages have different PRs implies that all other things can't be equal.


I guess he was referring to the on-page factors [same targeted keywords, same page structures, same kind of navigation, same number of pages etc etc]

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All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:

A PR1 page on a PR8 website

OR

A PR2 page on a PR3 website

?


So both pages have identical content, titles, alts, metas, identical navigational placement inside the website, and identical anchors... well 1 or the other would be caught in a duplciate content filter and that could be the PR1 or PR2 page...

...so from academics to application of "all other things being equal" -- there is an absolute certainty that it will neve3r happen long enough for someone to evaluate which is better.
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While I agree with the above posters points IMO inner pages of authority sites have an easier time ranking for terms they are relevant to than non authority sites. ie an article from a large news organisation like bbc or cnn etc will go straight to the top for a relevant serch query. This though has nothing to do with PR it is more about TR (trust rank) Trust is a much more sitewide factor. When a search query is entered into google serps are ordered on some combination of trust and relevance. A high trust site will beat a low trust site if the relevance score is similar. This is what IMO can give the impression that PR is a factor in ranking. As it is often true high trust sites also have high PR due to the volume of other sites linking to them. But just because this is the case it does not mean a high PR site is a highhly trusted site. PR and TR have some things in common but also many things which are different.

But in the end google claims it is relevance to the query that is its main determing factor. It is just that google assumes a highly trusted sites relevant content is more likley to be of use to a searcher than a low trust sites relevant content.

Having said all that I totally agree with fathom about the "all other things being equal" bit.
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All other things being equal, which do you think (or know) would rank better:

A PR1 page on a PR8 website

OR

A PR2 page on a PR3 website

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DO u think if PR is high, site will appear on first page??
There is no relation between PR and ranking. if you optimize your site properly then it will get high ranking.

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