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Old August 13th, 2007, 04:52 PM
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Thumbs up PR changes

So I must agree with this post. PR in the end doesn't matter unless other sites won't trade with you because of low page rank.

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So what IS the green bar good for? Quite simply, buying/selling/doing links.

Take a look at the #1 web sites out there, the big PR 10 heavy weights, or anything over 7. They link to whoever regardless of green PR because it suits their VISITORS!

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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:38 AM
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I have been reading and I see page rank shouldn't matter, but what if it does? I write sponsored posts and when my page rank dropped from 4 to 0 all of the sudden, I lost all my sponsors. They do judge things based on page rank and now I'm losing money. So something has to give. There is no reason I should have a 0 page rank.

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Old August 14th, 2007, 10:49 AM
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Of course there would be tons of PR questions elsewhere if this forum didn't exist. It is also completely valid to complain about PR questions in other forums, but given that this forum is aimed at PR it is ridiculous to complain about PR postings here. Doesn't the description of this forum state that this forum is for discussing PR? It doesn't matter if this forum was created to drive PR questions away from other forums, the fact is the invitation to ask PR questions is clearly implied in the forum description.

If you don't like the PR questions asked here then don't read this forum.
You probably guessed from DJstreets reply... the idea isn't to stop people asking questions about PR, it's to stop people asking the same silly questions over and over...
Of course we want valid discussions about PR here, after all - despite our best efforts - we still don't fully understand the relationship between PR and serps. The problem is that - if you look back 6 months-2 years, you'll see that - for every thread prompting a meaningful discussion - we had about 20 threads asking the same silly questions... so the "good threads" were quickly shuffled down into oblivion.
The purpose of this thread (and the reason for the 'sticky' status) is to stop those silly questions and try to fill the forum with worthwhile information instead, (after all - PR is still a mystery and a concern to many seo newbies).

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I have been reading and I see page rank shouldn't matter, but what if it does?

The misunderstanding is that - whilst it doesn't matter too much for serps - it still matters for link exchanges / site valuation etc.
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There is no reason I should have a 0 page rank.
It could be an error (Google have made some adjustments to PR/link scores over recent months and it's quite common during these periods for some sites to get messed up) or it could - of course - be a penalty of some sort.
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Old September 25th, 2007, 06:39 AM
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hello everybody thats good post enjoy this.......

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I was reading an out of country (can't remember where it was) interview with Matt Cutts. Questions were asked, questions were answered, but the most revealing response Matt had, to a question about supplemental results and PageRank, was this:

"I wouldn't worry about supplemental results. If your site has lower PageRank then it may occur in our supplemental index, but that doesn't mean that the site has a penalty or is losing trust. Usually that just means that if you get a few more high-quality links because your site is good, then we will include more pages from your site in our main web index."

What popped out at me was this "then we will include more pages from your site in our main web index" - the timing of which could not have been more coincidental, one of my main sites had just fallen from a 5 to a 4 PR, and guess what - traffic fell because 'specific' search pages were not being presented.

Just a heads up on PR, IMO, it is a very important part of an overal SEO campaign. You site has 10,000 pages, 8000 of which are served up at a PR5, but only 4000 at PR4, for example.

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Old October 4th, 2007, 07:07 PM
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Great post

this whole PR thing drives me crazy. I have a PR=0, however I rank on the forst page of google for all of my categories and I have over 350 pages indexed....go figure

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amazing post!! bravo!

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We live in a links world where PR is our goal lol

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Old November 1st, 2007, 01:14 PM
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Ok quick overview:
toolbar page rank is NOT the page rank Google uses in its many factors to rank your site. ONLY Google knows the REAL Page Rank.

IGNORE the green bar, uninstall it or disable the feature. It doesnt matter.

Focus on getting quality links, which means:
links from content of sites in your respective industry
links from well indexed and well ranked websites
keyword links whenever possible
links to inner pages not just home page of your site
links to your newest content


Hi Googler, when you say "well ranked websites" what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about PR or Alexa ranking or something else? Maybe just the search engine results spot they pop up in?

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Old November 25th, 2007, 10:45 PM
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I dont know, why my pagerank drop from 4 to 3
but it's no problem when my keyword still no 1 in google

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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:54 PM
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Ghost in the Machine...

I generally group Google's visible PageRank in with other misleading "ranks" such as Alexa. Both can be manipulated fairly easily by black-hats yet no actual benefits to search engine organics for sites with a PageRank of 6 or less can be seen.

People can chase their tails wasting time trying to move their PageRank up when they should be focusing their time and efforts into providing genuine content that can increase their natural organic listings.

Do you think a visitor cares if your site has a high or low PageRank? If your site was high in the organics with a snippet that was relevant to what they are seeking, they will click. Then it is up to your content and the ease of use of the site that will dictate your conversion rates.

I am not saying that external links are not important, just that relying on the visual PageRank as a metric for success is just chasing the elusive ghost in the machine.

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I completely agree with you djstreet. Asking lots of questions about google pr not only is useless but also fills the space and reduces the chance of valued postings. Thanks for information.

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Nice Post A small Question

you often see PR bars in Google Webmaster tool in crawl stats column.
What is that?
as it tell us that what PR is being assigned by google is that the true PR?
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nice articles

What is nice??? Please don't add this kind of thing e.g. nice articles, thanks, ok, lab...lab......lab..........
This is discussion forum share you view ask anything related to thread fell free and cool ...........
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Good point

Good points, but Google does reward high page rank links.. And, on top of that, many of the heavy-hitting, high ranked sites are organisations with which Google has some alternate arrangements, so we can't really look to them as rolemodels for how to rank well...
Out of interest thoug, do you know what the SEOquake toolbar does?

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PR is just there for entertainment purposes. A gimmick.

I have sites with PR0 that rank #1 for good keywords.

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