SERP & PR relation

I just want to know how many of members of this forum thinks about relation b/w SERP and PR.
Plaese poll everybody
Thanks.

Most members on here do not know so won't vote accurately. But when the professionals who have been doing this all their life say pagerank has no effect on your rankings you had better believe it. Even I who have only been doing this less than a year can tell you from the rankings I have achieved that the Google PageRank has absolutely no effect on rankings. And to dispute INCdevelopers ideas that it displays a sites trust that isn't always accurate. There are many sites with PR2 or 3 which google puts more importance or site value or site trust on than a PR5 or 6. I believe Matt Cutts blog has something on this and he is on my side and seeing as he works for google you can take it to the bank

In Google, pagerank would probably be the trump card given equal optimization and equal link quality.... but we all know that all optimizations are not equal and all links are not same quality.

YOu could look at it like this:

Some weiner scholars say in the Bible, the book of Matthew and Luke use a source called 'Q', that's never been found, not known to even exist.....


SERP position and PR are related? perhaps mutually exclusive? and are moving up and down based on 'Q' factors, of which we don't know. haha.

I agree that page rank has no influence on search rankings but if there are millions of results for a certain term i have found that the higher a page is the higher the PR is. So it could be that for only the MOST COMPETETIVE terms are page ranks taken into consideration when ranking in google.

of course this theory may be completely wrong, so remember its just a theory.

If you have one billions unrelevant garbage links to your site and lets say google doesn't ban you and counts them. THese links could gain you a high PR but you are not going to get good rankings because of these links. MSN might but google doesn't. Therefore PR does not effect rankings. What effects rankings also effects your PR but your PR does not effect rankings.

I personally think that Page Rank has nothing to do with your position in the SERPS.

I have a few PR0 sites outranking PR8's....

Not true at all i got website with pagerank 5 higher than pagerank 8.

This is very simple, since google last update the amount of links doesnt have a high impact over rankings, now this days quality even if they are a little amount can be the key for rankings. I will put this example if you got 300 pagerank 6 websites that are not as good as 10 pagerank 2 websites, probably you are going the bad way. Its true you may get pagerank 9 with those 300 backlinks but your rankings will not really climb alot, but in this case this 10 pagerank 2 websites that had alot of quality can really boost your rankings and probably you will got not more than pagerank 3.

I'm glad somebody brought this up. My expirience is that pr does not effect the serps. Tell me why, when somebody asks...

How do I get better rank? ....get more links.
How do I get better PR? ......get more links.

Its the same answer to both questions and although I believe theres a common denominator someplace, I can't put my finger on it.

I can show you two sites of mine.

One with lots of related incoming links with PR1,
...and one with veryfew related links with PR5.

The site I spend most of my time on, pr4 and rock solid #1 rank. I haven't heard an explanation that I can take hook, line and sinker.

Its a great response so far, I think we will be able to make up a mind about what SEO Community thinks about "Relationship b/w PR & Serp" after couple of week when we will have enough no of polls(more than 100).
But One question I want to raise here CAN WE USE GOOD PR IN GETTING GOOD SERP ???
ways can be different how we use it?
approach can be different.
but major question is CAN WE ??
if yes how??
I again invite all the members to poll and write few words on above questions ???
thank you all.

I have watched my rankings bounce on a yo-yo string for the past year, the 2 domains i have done the most work on are 5 years old.

Throughout the past year, I have watched pages get in the top 3 on page one then get bumped out over and over again. However, on one domain that has taken the worst hits over time, has about 70 - 80 internal pages with a PR6. If the rankings affect the PR but the PR does not affect the rankings, would it not be a fair thing to say that I should not have so many internal pages with a PR6 because of the constant changes in rankings? I can say with all honesty that those internal PR6 pages are not linking to garbage and are relevant.

I am sure i am wrong on this, but I personally think that PR goes in 2 different directions these days, offsite linking and onsite linking.

I say this because those Internal PR6 pages only link within the domain they reside. Sure there might be a couple of offsite links that I am not aware of, but nothing that would give them a PR6.

In my opinion I do not think PR has anything at all to do with the serps.

I will say it different:

How do i get a better rank? ... get quality links
How do i get a better PR? ....get more links

Getting a good pagerank will came with time, if you exchange links with quality websites i am sure you will get the pagerank you deserves. By the other hand pagerank will get you in the ranking you deserve.

I will have to say, i dont care if i got pagerank 0 if i am on the top 10.

Nobody will care after all every one has goal of getting good rank. But I haven't seen any low PR site (PR<3) in top 10 rank in google for a competetive keywords or phrase.