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Old August 4th, 2004, 04:06 AM
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Why is this so hard to achieve? Slackers!

http://www.thinkbling.com/prcalc/in...ulate+Page+Rank

PS. I really like that tool.
That's an interesting tool. I don't think its accurate though. It says one link from a PR6 alone (with 60 links) should net a pr4 destination page. I have that, and some 5s, plus many smaller ones of course...and I've been pr3 for last 2 updates.

It's a nice idea, but any tool such as this is only a guess, and the further you go up, I think the less that is understood with pr. I also don't believe there is a straight correlation between number of backlinks with certain PR resulting in PR for destination page. That's just my opinion though.

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Actually lads i know a way of getting site to PR10 for just a couple of hunded dollars.

and before you all go on about how much bull it is let me explain ( a little bit )

I should say I know a way of tricking the google toolbar into displaying a PR 10 for a certain site.

Now how much do you think a PR10 site could sell for.
Or how about a PR9 or 8 just to make it more plausable.

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Old August 13th, 2004, 07:33 AM
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Actually lads i know a way of getting site to PR10 for just a couple of hunded dollars.

and before you all go on about how much bull it is let me explain ( a little bit )

I should say I know a way of tricking the google toolbar into displaying a PR 10 for a certain site.

Now how much do you think a PR10 site could sell for.
Or how about a PR9 or 8 just to make it more plausable.

First of all, the fact that you would be selling a PR10 for "a couple hundred dollars" would scream fraud. To me this is a waste of time to discuss (plus I doubt any members of this forum want to help you rip people off)

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Old August 13th, 2004, 10:42 AM
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The tool is off as it doesn't take many things into effect. If you have 50 links from one site, it most likely will only count for 1.

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Wow the cynical lack of curiosity from Jasontnyc is truely astounding.
Firstly I only said I know how to do it.
If I was going to scam someone I would habe been saying I have a PR7 website to sell for only, Whatever.
But I guess you didnt pick up on the little bit of irony in the last 2 lines.
And I dont think learning anything is a waste of time to discuss.
There are other applications for the technology I am talking about that dont rip people off.
lets say you start a new directory website but no one will link to you because you have no PR for example.
But if thats your attitude, thats your attitude.
why are you even here if your not willing to enquire about something new.

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Please enlighten us

Go on darksat ....

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Old August 13th, 2004, 01:04 PM
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If you want to wait 2 months for me to make a PR10 domain, I'll sell it to you for $500. And I make no guarantee that is stays at PR10 after that though. Anyone can make a PR10 domain, keeping it PR10 is the real trick.

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Old August 14th, 2004, 03:42 AM
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Have you ever made a pr10 domain before?
You should becareful what you say here about pagerank here, people in here will call you crazy and make fun of you! lol

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If you want to wait 2 months for me to make a PR10 domain, I'll sell it to you for $500. And I make no guarantee that is stays at PR10 after that though. Anyone can make a PR10 domain, keeping it PR10 is the real trick.

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Have you ever made a pr10 domain before?
You should becareful what you say here about pagerank here, people in here will call you crazy and make fun of you! lol


I think Shawn (DP) could do it IF he really wanted it. He has all the resources required.

What makes a different between a professional SEO / SEM and a scam artist offering a high PR, is that the latter is artificial and usually last a short while (like all the loopholes). Professional SEO / SEM is based on content and copywriting, site development, finding appropiate partners etc. factors that truly enhance the clients site and make it more attractive for customers and for search engine bots. PR is just one MINOR factor in entity that does not give you any high rankings by itself.
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Seo-Boii I applaud you. Sometimes in forums people who post a lot and know a lot about a subject forget the most important thing and that is to think outside the box and ANSWER THE QUESTION. They are so quick to try to put a few words together to make it seem like they are smart, BUT they still won't answer the question. I think you had a good question. What would it cost to buy a PR10 site and what would a link sell for. That is a question that doesn't have a right or wrong answer. If these people on this site were so smart who say smart comments back to you then they would understand that we learned back in elementary school that no ones opinion is right or wrong because its an OPINION. And that is exactly what you were asking for, AN OPINION. For the people who are too stuck in the box or to dumb to answer with a simple OPINION that would answer the question (and not an opinion trying to tell you how dumb the question is) then they probably will be left behind in the future anyways. They will always be trying to play catch up. These are the same people who thought the earth was flat, the same people who thought the 4 minute mile was impossible, the same people who thought flying could never be done. Get off your high horses, quit looking at code so much, get your face out the books, and learn to answer a question and quick trying to make everyones lives who dream a bore like yours are. Now Seo-Boii my opinion is that a PR10 could easily cost over a million dollars. I also think that since PR7 links go for $100 and PR8 links go for $300 and PR9 links go for up to $1500 then maybe a PR10 link would go for $15000-$20000
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Have you ever made a pr10 domain before?
You should becareful what you say here about pagerank here, people in here will call you crazy and make fun of you! lol

I have as an experiment about something not directly related. Takes one or two PR/BL updates for it to fully show as a PR10.

It only requires a single link, and is really of no use other than cosmetically showing as PR10.

Here's a "how to"... Make a link to one of your domains that does a 301 redirect to a "real" PR10 (www.google.com for example).

Within a few weeks (once Google sees the link), that domain will report the same number of back links and PageRank as the one you are linking to.

Perfect example... I have a domain blergh.com (and a couple others), that is parked at my primary domain digitalpoint.com (it does a 301).

PageRank 7 on all:
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...igitalpoint.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...=www.blergh.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...ww.optigold.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra....data-point.com

With both reporting the same back links:

http://www.google.com/search?q=link...igitalpoint.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.blergh.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.optigold.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.data-point.com

My point is that anyone can create a "PR10" site by doing that if they really wanted. But it has no value other than cosmetic. Just be wary of anyone trying to sell a domain, and make sure the reported links actually go to that domain.

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seo-boii, I think people are critical because they see no point in it, and also don't think it is possible in Google's world. You used to be able to get very high PR, quite easily when you could buy PR9-10 links for virtually nothing. Regardless of that tool, you will need around 100 PR9 links or a couple PR10 links to get your goal. It just seems a lot of work for something of little to no value. If you have a PR10, you will need to spend day and night getting links just to maintain it. Let's face it, those links won't be legit. I'm also sure you will draw the ire of Google as well. Not to mention, PR has very little value these days. I'd much rather spend my time making money by using tactics that are still widely effective on Google. I'd applaud your idea 2 years ago, but it is worthless now.

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I had a very similar thing happen to me, I had a domain (improperly) fowarding from GoDaddy to one of my pr7 sites, after a few months it too had a pr7 and would show the same backlinks on google. Now here is the weird part, I sold the domain but still checked it from time to time, it has kepted the pr7 and is still showing the same backlinks as the domain that it was fowarded too from months ago.

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I have as an experiment about something not directly related. Takes one or two PR/BL updates for it to fully show as a PR10.

It only requires a single link, and is really of no use other than cosmetically showing as PR10.

Here's a "how to"... Make a link to one of your domains that does a 301 redirect to a "real" PR10 (www.google.com for example).

Within a few weeks (once Google sees the link), that domain will report the same number of back links and PageRank as the one you are linking to.

Perfect example... I have a domain blergh.com (and a couple others), that is parked at my primary domain digitalpoint.com (it does a 301).

PageRank 7 on all:
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...igitalpoint.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...=www.blergh.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra...ww.optigold.com
http://rankwhere.com/google-page-ra....data-point.com

With both reporting the same back links:

http://www.google.com/search?q=link...igitalpoint.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.blergh.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.optigold.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.data-point.com

My point is that anyone can create a "PR10" site by doing that if they really wanted. But it has no value other than cosmetic. Just be wary of anyone trying to sell a domain, and make sure the reported links actually go to that domain.

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Thank you lord, finally somebody answers my question and has some sense!



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Seo-Boii I applaud you. Sometimes in forums people who post a lot and know a lot about a subject forget the most important thing and that is to think outside the box and ANSWER THE QUESTION. They are so quick to try to put a few words together to make it seem like they are smart, BUT they still won't answer the question. I think you had a good question. What would it cost to buy a PR10 site and what would a link sell for. That is a question that doesn't have a right or wrong answer. If these people on this site were so smart who say smart comments back to you then they would understand that we learned back in elementary school that no ones opinion is right or wrong because its an OPINION. And that is exactly what you were asking for, AN OPINION. For the people who are too stuck in the box or to dumb to answer with a simple OPINION that would answer the question (and not an opinion trying to tell you how dumb the question is) then they probably will be left behind in the future anyways. They will always be trying to play catch up. These are the same people who thought the earth was flat, the same people who thought the 4 minute mile was impossible, the same people who thought flying could never be done. Get off your high horses, quit looking at code so much, get your face out the books, and learn to answer a question and quick trying to make everyones lives who dream a bore like yours are. Now Seo-Boii my opinion is that a PR10 could easily cost over a million dollars. I also think that since PR7 links go for $100 and PR8 links go for $300 and PR9 links go for up to $1500 then maybe a PR10 link would go for $15000-$20000

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Yes he is right,
Thats how its done.
all the PR gets channeled to the new domain but the old one appears to have the same pr as the new one if you turn off the 301

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