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    What criteria are you all using for "not ranking well"? I have a new site that I just launched less than a week ago - brand new domain. Within 3 days, it was indexed and ranking in top 50. (I realize that's not super-great ranking, but it's pretty much where all of my new sites generally start out. Then I tweak and add backlinks to bring them to the top within a couple of months). This site still doesn't have PR or BL showing since it is so new. Should start out at a PR5 next go-round most likely. I honestly haven't seen any evidence of sandboxing with any of my new sites.
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    I've had new sites rank well in 2-3 days but only if keyword are exact in url....

    Only lasts 2 weeks..... then gets lost in shuffle....
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    Ranking well depends on the competitiveness of the term. But why ever pay someone to rank you in the 15th position?
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    OK well Im going to try this, the #1 site for "remax greater atlanta" has a PR of 4, a total of 5 backlinks published and has the phrase once in the title, and has "atlanta" once and "greater" once not together. IF I create a complete duplicate page with more backlinks and higher PR should I outrank it? or at least be in the top 100, Im not now and it is by far a competitive term. My client ranks top 3 in MSN and Yahoo for atlanta real esate, real estate atlanta, atlanta real estate aent etc etc, has a Pr 7 and 2450 backlinks in google hmm bets are I dont rank
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    It's been said Google is no longer passing PR or link pop benefits from expired domains for some time now. Perhaps this sandbox effect was created to counter that. So maybe it has nothing to do with PR or link pop but rather was a counter to the expired domain industry... if so they've hit two birds with one stone.

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    dazzlindonna, those sites you are talking about are they industry specific. I can almost guarentee you that I experience it in Real Estate and in Online Casinos.
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    duncan, definitely google is attempting to counter the expired domains. so perhaps some innocents have fallen as well because of this. just haven't seen it with mine. and chatmaster, i suppose any website is industry-specific. mine definitely aren't real estate or casino related though. is it possible that those of you affected have bought expired domains (and didn't realize it)?
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    In my case expired domains is not an issue. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that Real Estate and Online Casinos are the 2 industries that has been heavily effected by Google's new algo, but I am NOT planning to give up that easily
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    It affects all keywords no matter how competitive or not competitive the terms are.
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    It seems to be affecting a lot of sites at the moment.
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    I agree with seo guy


    I agree with seoguy. Actually new sites are not stopped from ranking in serps. Just the benefit of PR and backlinks is not passed for a few weeks. This will be visible for keywords where the site is very much dependent on PR and backlinks. For low competition keywords it may not be so visible.
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    Very interesting discussion. Has anyone had sites that have gotten out of the sand box (or whatever the new site phenomena is)? If so, how long did it take and was there a dramatic increase in SERP's straight away?
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    Guys, try your keyword phrase followed by SEVEN exclusion parameters.

    i.e. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...++&btnG=Search
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    That is just plain WHACKED! But consistent << GOOGLE
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    Originally Posted by rustybrick
    Guys, try your keyword phrase followed by SEVEN exclusion parameters.

    i.e. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...++&btnG=Search
    RB, what does this mean? (in the results that is)

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