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Oct 14th, 2005, 05:23 AM
reminding google of your backlinks
What's the best way to do this legitimately?
I mean, using www.submitexpress.com/linkpop , google and inktomi think there are only 21 for my site, but msn, av, yahoo, alltheweb all see 800+. Which kind of does my head in as it actually matters more to google and inktomi than the others.
Do I post a list somewhere, (but won't that get penalised)? I don't want to go down the cheap shot road, any suggestions?
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Oct 14th, 2005, 05:31 AM
Google will pick up your links, but only show a selection of them.
Oct 14th, 2005, 05:47 AM
maybe script got errror or something
Oct 15th, 2005, 08:10 AM
"Google will pick up your links, but only show a selection of them."
yep - that's right. But i've always been curious why they show certain links vs. others. I'm sure there's a related thread on this here somewhere so i'll look for it...
Oct 15th, 2005, 09:35 AM
The reason google shows a subset of all backlinks is to make it much more difficult to determine the weight of backlinks in SERPS and PR. They use random sampling so that the "weight" of particularly relevant backlinked sites can not be easily determined and then exploited.
For example if I know that "blahbla.com" is #1 SERP and it has 1000 backlinks I can script the results and grab the PR and link structure to each site so I can more easily compete. Especially given G's priority of links over content, this is a smoke screen to diffuse all the "Page Rank Prediction" scripts and analytical link popularity->SERP scripts
Oct 15th, 2005, 10:26 AM
hmmm....interesting. And checking those BLs on Yahoo and MSN won't give you the same kind of data....good call.
I'm sure there's an algorithm, then, that G uses to display the BLs. Has anyone ever done a study comparing the Yahoo/MSN BLs to Google BLs while noting the PR of the pages that get left out of G's BLs?
Oct 15th, 2005, 10:31 AM
I dont know of any articulate studies on the differences of the major SE's backlink publications however there is one thing to remember with G. They place an unholy amount of importance on backlinks. That said, they also have multiple tiers of "weight" based on the source of the backlink in regard to category/topic relevance and the backlinking sites own backlink heirarchy. This extends well beyond the Pagerank of the site and the details of the algorithim will be published the day after the Kennedy Assasination truth and what Area 51 is really used for
Oct 15th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Yeah, they have such an overwhelmingly huge amount data to write those kind of algorithms.....here comes Google OS - the world will never be the same again.
Oct 18th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Regarding your question actually google will show only links from pages of PR=>4 that's it.
Originally Posted by HN Will
Oct 18th, 2005, 03:42 PM
Not true at all. It shows a random sample. PR is not a factor.
Originally Posted by TopSeoExperts
Oct 18th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Right PR has nothing to do with it. At all. Period.
The OP did spark an interesting idea for me.
What about setting up a blogger account with links pointing to the pages that link to you? This would not only "remind" the SEs of your BLs but even give them a tiny bit extra link power. The key to this would be to make sure you don't link to any bad neighborhoods.
I think I'll give it a try.
Oct 18th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Can You Prove that for us? If you find one or two sites with pr<4 that means it is not re-indexed by google after the pr update but usually all sites are of pr4.
Originally Posted by lorien1973
Oct 18th, 2005, 03:57 PM
I'd be curious to see the proof that the BLs google lists are PR >=4. If anything I was thinking that G hides the big PR sites to make our jobs harder...
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Oct 18th, 2005, 03:59 PM
Really - PR has nothing to do with which BLs G displays.
Oct 18th, 2005, 04:07 PM
check for 10 site on G, M and Y and you will see something like this:
Can You Prove that for us?
Y: 2000 BL
M: 1500 BL
G: 4 bL
and you will for every site see that G shows nothing
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