PR4 vs Pr5

I was wondering what the difference between pr4 and pr 5 is


for example how many pr 4 pages would 4 pr5 pages be =to ?


any help is appriciated

4 + 1 = 5 LOL


I know they use some type of exponential system to get you into the pr5 category. Many sites can become a pr4 instantly, with little backlinks. I too would be interested in what the threshhold would be to become a pr5. How many backlinks, and what value. Do you have to have 2 pr5 backlinks to get a pr5? Or can you become a pr5 with only 100 pr4 backlinks?

Good question.

someone else just asked this question and there is a good answer http://forums.seochat.com/t11829/s.html

This link will give you a good idea: http://www.compar.com/infopool/arti...alculation.html

Was the a rhetorical question? Cause i want to know... how'd he/ she do that?

*sigh* the number of these questions is really depressing.

do some searches about it. or better yet, stop worrying about arbitrary numbers and eyecandy.

all you need to know is: more inbound links is good, regardless of what your PR is.

Your question makes me think about whether or not you are going about acheiving your goal in the right way here...

First off, the PR displayed in the toolbar is an estimate - rounded essentially. Thus, all PR 4s are not equal, and all PR 5's are not necessarily 1 full unit "better".

Secondly, as said above - the more the merrier. More links = better. Better quality links = better. Both = BEST.

Third, this whole link building topic is so fluid that it makes no sense to try and break it down to a specific number. I can almost gaurantee you that webmasters or SEOs of the most successful sites in your market don't know exactly how many links point to there site. Indeed, if you do know the exact number (which cannot be returned by any search for links since they are dependent upon their index which can never be 100% up to the minute) you probably don't have enough links!!! The goal here is to have so many great links that you can't keep count!!!

Lastly, as a general bit of input PR 4's are sort of the starting point or building block. IMO its the PR that can be obtained rather easily, rather quickly with a few inbound links from reasonable PR sites. Less than PR 4 and you've likely got something that you should really look to improve. PR 4 seems to be the starting point - I kind of think of it as the minimum that I will accept. Naturally, the goal is to continually improve. There is a significant difference between a PR 4 and a PR 5. That said, don't get so much hung up on the number 4 or 5, but rather the general amount and quality of links that is the difference between the two.

Since I'm tired and cranky I'm going to keep typing now... Here's sort of my analysis of various PR levels:

PR 0 - either not yet determined or very very poor
PR 1 - very very poor, must be improved unless your keywords targeted are quite specific and noncompetitive
PR 2 - same as above, only slightly better
PR 3 - a common PR for a local small business or small org. website. likely has a couple of inbound links maybe from a few PR 4 sites or something, but likely not more than 4 or 5 links from PR 4 or PR 5 sites (if that)
PR 4 - my initial target in launching a new site. i find that if i can get 2 or 3 links from a PR 5 sites and maybe 3 or 4 links from PR 4 and 3 sites than this is obtainable
PR 5 - the first stage at which I might consider the PR "good". depending on how competitive your market is this may be enough PR to dominate (all other other things being equal) or may be pathetic and get you no where close to the first page. generally for local sites and low to moderately competitive terms this is acceptable
PR 6 - now we are talking about a local site or small business this is pretty good. indeed, unless you are specifically working on an aggressive linking campaign or you've got some kind of killer content, or if you are a big time national business its hard to get higher than this. it likely would take a good bit of time to get up here. a year, two years, three years, depends. could be less in some cases.
PR 7 - a major player in virtually any regional search market and probably pretty competitive for most national search terms - certainly low and medium levels of competition and probably even a good number of fairly competitive terms, assuming everything else is optimized well
PR 8 - same as above but better. probably takes most sites here several years - 3 to 5 or so and either some kind of killer content or highly successful link campaign - maybe both. very tough if not almost impossible to acheive for a small local business. as a point of reference, Dell's website is a PR 8
PR 9 - basically impossible for any business that 90% of the population is not closely familiar with. even so, still pretty rare. probably a tech company that's been around for a good number of years. virtually impossible to obtain via a link building campaign - you've got to just have
PR 10 - microsoft, google, etc. indeed, even microsoft isn't always a PR 10


for small businesses and/or those targeting low-competition terms you are likely striving for 4, 5, or 6

for medium businesses or web-based companies going after medium-competition terms 5, 6 and 7 are the okay, good, and great PRs you should seek

for big-time sites competing on competitive search phrases a 6 is essentially a minimum, 7 is good and 8 is about as good as you can get

just my thoughts. i'm too tired to explain or clarify them, but there's a brain-dump for ya!

Wow - I'm very surprised to see that site taken down. I've visited thetrip.com often (but not recently) because it was the first site I knew of that showed you real-time flight data on commercial airline flights in the U.S. You could put in a flight number and airline, and it would show you the departure and destination points, current altitude and airspeed, and plot it on a map of the US. It was a travel related site and had lots of information on it but the flight tracker was the most popular feature I believe. Maybe they had to take it down after 9/11.

The value of a PR5.0 is about 7 times of a PR4.0.

Cristi: That was an interesting link, thanks for the reference. It would be interesting to see some feedback from individuals who keep a close eye on BL's and how accurate that table might be.

Ephricon: Good common sense advice. Seems to be consistent with everything I see in the rankings with about 15% that don't fit (very low PR's ranking well). Thanks

Disgust: If one is to set goals, even if it's just to convince linking partners of your value, I see nothing wrong with attempting to quantify it. Did anyone else check out the Cristi's link?

I have seen that page and personally I do not agree with the factor of 5.5. Noone (except google, of course) knows what the real factor is, but based on my tests and moreso on my research, I believe the factor is closer to 8.

Thanks to you guys who dared to post real numbers.
Seven to eight sound right

Like ephricon said the PR5 if basically the good PR minimum to have.
Decent crawling of home and links on it almost everyday, so more pages to work with.

thqans for that great info!

why does it matter of the scale is on a factor or 5.5, or 8, or 200? really, why does it?

the arbitrary number you're assigned means virtually nothing. there's almost no advantage to hitting the next tier (ie going from a PR4 to a PR5 on the toolbar).

if you gain 10 backlinks and go from a PR4 to a PR5, and then gain 10 more backlinks and stay at a PR5, assuming the pages you were linked to from and the anchor text are similar, the benefit you'll recieve will be IDENTICAL.

Thanks for the article...