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Old January 3rd, 2004, 04:18 AM
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I am relatively new to this. please can you answer the following. I have many pages linking internally to an enquiry form page which I do not need to rank highly. Should I use no index tag ?will this prevent wastage of ranking points ? Please advise.

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Old January 3rd, 2004, 09:22 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

I would use a JAVA for the link to the form.

Something like :

<script language = "javascript">
document.write('<a hre' + 'f = "ht' + 'tp://ww' + 'w.myd' + 'omain.org/">anchor text</a>');
</script>

This will prevent google from seeing this link and from passing PR.

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Old January 3rd, 2004, 09:35 AM
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Thankyou very much for your response .However what you suggest is beyond me . I am using frontpage with html. I would need either very simple instructions as where to place what you suggest or a simple alternative Thanks again anyway
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Old January 3rd, 2004, 10:43 AM
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I use front page also...
Go on my site and have a look at my links pages. Those who are not exchanged have this java command... very easy.
Use source from the view menu of your browser to see the code...

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Thankyou for your help I understand now thanks again

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Google reads document.writes and ignor's '+' I know because I used to use exactly whats above for my outbound links, but looking at the backlinks for all sites I linked to showed me site with an upto date cache.

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Old January 3rd, 2004, 07:20 PM
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Started using it after I found :

http://forums.seochat.com/showthrea...=&threadid=6408

Any suggestions?

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Old January 3rd, 2004, 10:15 PM
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Just a little outdated I think, google has (although slowly) been getting smarter in detecting js.

I use this:
<a href="javascript:nofollow('http://www.site.com')" onclick="window.status='http://www.site.com'; return true" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.site.com'; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true">Site</a>

And then in an external js file, prohibited by robots.txt:
function nofollow(n) { document.location.href=n; }

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Okay... that's the example seoguy had posted in the thread... but different.

The external js file... is a file like name.js with this text in it, I think.

What do you put in the html code so the js command get's it from the prohibited directory?

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I am now lost again please could someone tell me as simply as possible the easiest way to prevent pr loss to irrelevant page within same site. for example site say http://madeupname.com and the page I want to link to is http://madeupname.com/enquiries.htm
Enquiries page need not be indexed if this makes it simpler.
Would be grateful for help.

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Old January 4th, 2004, 05:39 AM
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I have been looking through an old posting and you suggest using a robots txt file (would a meta tag be OK ie <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"> Iassume I would put this on the enquiries page. What would happen if I put ameta tag <meta name="robots" content="nofollow"> on each page linking to my enquiry page. I assume this would stop all outgoing links on that page being followed by google. Would this again stop a loss in PR

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Seo Guy has a good article on the flow of page rank and PR channeling here: http://www.seo-guy.com/pagerank-art...g-pagerank.html

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What would happen if I put ameta tag <meta name="robots" content="nofollow"> on each page linking to my enquiry page.


Dont wanna do that. As Google wont follow ANY links on that page. You would lose more PR than gain. Not worth one page.

Read seo guys article. You will have to use a javascript link to effectivally block PR to one link.

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Now learning PR stuff more...

Ok hold the phone, damned if that isn't smart, obvious and I still didn't have that in my notes. Get people to link to you using html and link back to them using js. That way you don't burn PR. Very good.
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Get people to link to you using html and link back to them using js


Just hope your "link partners" dont find out (which they will) as they will be quite upset.

Hell you can even go as far as adding your links page to robots.txt and exclude it but necessary or needed.? Not really.

PR funneling isn't as useful as it used to be.

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