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Old October 23rd, 2003, 03:25 AM
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Exclamation Outgoing links do not leak PR. Period.

"Outgoing links do not leak PR. Period."

i thought this was a hefty statement:

http://www.highrankings.com/forum/i...wtopic=1466&hl=

[see the 2nd post of the thread.]

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Old October 23rd, 2003, 11:48 AM
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It simply wouldn't make sense for a "leak" to exist. Google's power is in the ability to serve up relevant content, derived from various popularity indicators...take one of these indicators away (through penalization) and the results will be less indicative of the true results, IMO at least.

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Old October 23rd, 2003, 05:19 PM
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Zoolander, it is a completely true statement however and one that I was supposed to write an article on but I got side tracked. The misconception that it "leaks" stems from the fact that it "effects" the PR on a multipage site as there is PR in the sytem. However strictly speaking because pagerank is a page to page varable. If you only had a 1 page website and it had 1000 weight points from external sources and you link out to 10 sites you still have 1000 weight points if you link to 100 sites you still have 1000 weight points, however this is unrealistic as most sites have more then 1 page, however to clarfy outbound non-reciprocating links do not decrease PR they increase (Ct1) in the algo which is the denominator for the multiplyer.

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If you guys feel this is still an issue that requires further clarification I will go back and write the article for the forum, however it is something I felt was covered so frequently here that reference to it could be found in the search easily, perhaps we can make it a sticky for the "pagerank" category
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I always thought that if you link out to another site, the amount of page rank your pages have to pass on has diminished. Is this not correct?

In the broad sense then, your page does leak PR when it links out to another site.

One other question - if my main page has a PR 6/10 why do my internal pages all rank 5/10? They are all linked to one another and with only one page internally linking to an outside source.

Thanks!

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*Outgoing links do not leak PR. Period*
Guy is probably as frustrated as I am the amount of times this question keeps coming up ;-)
Some put their faith in a mathematical formula that suggests PR should be "channeled", others believe the whole notion is Hogwash; I sit on the fence and just do a bit of it "organically" ;-)

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if links didn't leak PR den anybody who gots PR8 could sell a hundred thousand links - and would still have plenty left - why don't we see dat?

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Because we are speaking in the single page context when infact the PR 8 is almost always achieved because of both incoming links and internal insertion of that incoming PR into the multiplyer via internal pages

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And also the more links on the PR 8 means the less each link is worth. I have tons of PR 8 domains that I sell links on but never over 20 otherwise the benefit is to greatly reduced to make it worth the Charge. Also a domain would not usually maintain its high PR status organically if all it did was sell links because those who created the high PR would now consider it a one way link farm and discount it if it had 2000 links on it
There is a balance that needs to be achieved between advertising and site maintanance

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then everybody should have PR8 - cuz all dat PR flyin round not costin nobody nuffin

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You mean we're all not PR 8?

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nope, least not my site - but i might like to have a PR8 link or too

how much might dat cost?

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Guy is probably as frustrated as I am the amount of times this question keeps coming up


Sorry, not trying to frustrate anyone, it's just that I can't seem to find an answer I understand, or one that anyone can lay factual claim to.

See, I think pages do leak PR. My home page has a PR6 and all my internal pages PR 5

All the links pointing AT my site point to my home page. I have 8 total pages on my site and only one of them hosts links out to other sites.

That page hosting those links that point out is a PR5.

I agree that a handful of links going off one of your pages will NOT affect or adjust your PR. I've had more links on that page I mentioned above and did not see my Google toolbar change.


If PR didn't leak, then all the pages would have the same page rank throughout the site provided the pages were all internally linked. But the fact is they don't. And I don't ever see many sites that do.

What goes in, has to come out! Or is Page Rank the exception in the Universe.

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yep, if PR wuzzin leakn then the PR of the whole wide web would go up UP UP UP

but it don't do that, so PR hasta leak

i wunna hear da "no leakers" splain dat

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if PR wuzzin leakn then a webring would just explode with all da PR flyin threw

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