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Old May 26th, 2004, 12:02 PM
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Outbound links without loosing PR?

How can I create outbound links without loosing my PR?

I have a list of manufacturers I want to add to my sight but do not want to dilute my PR.

Can I wrap them in javascript or something?

Thanks for any info.

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Old May 26th, 2004, 12:11 PM
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You can do that, but isn't it being selfish? Also, it may not hurt as bad as you think. If these manufacturers are relevant to your users, then link out to them without fear; PR is like karma (okay, not really, but you shouldn't fear your own rank will suffer by providing something useful).

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PageRank is a way to measure the popularity of a page across the web as a whole. by not providing static links to sites you like or would like to link to you are not helping them become successful (at least not as much as you can)

it does not hurt to link out to good stuff and you really don't "lose" pagerank, it just gets spread out differently.

if you are linking to good stuff then provide static links
if you are linking to bad stuff then send it through a redirect.
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Old May 26th, 2004, 01:39 PM
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The links I am providing are relevant but they don't reciprocate.

Maybe it's not worth the effort to use unspiderable (is that a word) links.

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I have had positive effects from linking to high PR sites...especially from new sites with little to no PR at all
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you can gain indirectly by linking into good sites.

for example if you link to a bunch of good stuff maybe someone will be more likely to link to you.

the gain you get by linking to good stuff is that your site visitors will associate you and your site with good stuff. this makes it easier to convert your traffic and also makes it easier to get inbound links.

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I belive that google can recognize most java scripts and counts them in the denominator of the pagerank equation.
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Hi cgchris99,

You could take a look at seoguy.com to learn a safe javascript method to avoid passing PR.

In my opinion you should not link to a web page unless you are willing to share some of your PR with the web page.

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i won't argue right or wrong, but i will say you can set up a robot.txt to disallow g's spider to crawl that specific page.
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I belive that google can recognize most java scripts and counts them in the denominator of the pagerank equation.


I believe such a thing not. Google is a newb when it comes to javascript. the things it did with my javascript code would make you ROFL.

it does understand some, sure, the most simple JS, which is so obvious even my dog could read it and it even mixes that up. it has a long way to go before it will understand JS the way it should and even then we'll be long ahead of the game.

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You will NOT lose your PR on the page your are linking from. YOu could put 5000 outbound links on it and would not lose a percent of your PR. PR of that page solely depends on inbound links to that page.

HOWEVER, if you have links to your internal pages from that page, then these internal pages will receive LESS PR because you spread the rest to the outbound links. So if your internal pages depend solely on that page (where you plan to put outbound links on) my advice would be to NOT do that. Put that outbound links elsewhere where they won't be such a PR drain for your internal pages. OR you can organize your linking structure they way that your internal pages won't depend only on that 1 link.

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try to use javascript, or maybe server side redirect

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I'm with Chachi, I believe that linking to well ranked, related pages will have a positive effect on your page.

I am also not convinced that putting up a bunch of external links reduces the pr going on to internal pages...
I have dealings in several industries where link exchanges from domain index pages are the norm and internal pages don't seem to lose at all... it's almost as if google "reserves" a portion of available "pr credit" for internal links.
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Little if any PR loss by adding links

I added almost 200 links to other web sites (non-reciprocating) from a PR6 site and saw no change to the PR
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I am also not convinced that putting up a bunch of external links reduces the pr going on to internal pages...
I have dealings in several industries where link exchanges from domain index pages are the norm and internal pages don't seem to lose at all... it's almost as if google "reserves" a portion of available "pr credit" for internal links.


believe it or not, it's the way it is. those dealings of yours either don't have enough links on their index pages to be noticed on the green bar, or they might also have a better linking structure and internal pages don't suffer as much. Each link out means simply less PR retained for other sites.

Anyone will tell you that PR divides between links, so more links you put up to other sites, less PR will be passed on to your internal from that page.

I've seen that on 2 of my PR7 domains. I had 150 links out from index and 1 link to my subpage. Result: subpage got only PR5. The other site had 250 links on index page. Subpage got PR5.

Then other bunch of PR7 sites of mine had only 1 link on index pages. Their subpages all got PR7.

It's pretty obvious and logic to me.

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