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Old March 25th, 2003, 02:16 PM
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Link Building Pricing by PageRank

Does anyone know of any companies who offers to build your link popularity, and charges by what page rank you wish to achieve?

I have been looking around at companies who offer link building services, but I am a but cautious because I don't want to pay for links from sites with very low pagerank (even though it may be relevant to my site), and won't help raise my PageRank.

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Old March 25th, 2003, 02:22 PM
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Interesting.....

It should be noted that at this point that Google frown upon buying / selling links in order to increase PR only. How long has your site been online? Do you think that it will receive inbound links naturally or do you think you will need to pay or them?

My advise would be to tackle this yourself and not trust a company!!
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Old March 25th, 2003, 05:50 PM
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Amen "D"

...or hire one of the talented SEO geeks who hang out on this BB which does not include myself.

The notion or even an inference that a high PR or even the PR algo itself will singnificantly influence/improve your SERPS is false. Period.

I'm sorry to harp on this as many of my posts have, rather it pains me to see great site owners focus on PR and completely ignore all the other things that need to be done. Do all the other things and your PR "will take care of itslef" and you won't need to focus on it.

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Old March 25th, 2003, 06:55 PM
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I agree Steve

PR is far too "over-hyped". In fact, I seen lower PR sites out performing their higher PR counterparts simply by doing things better!!

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searchking.com has actually been given the pr0 for selling links on it's pr7 homepage...

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I've seen many times where a PR5 beats out a PR6 just because they do everything right. Do it right, and your PageRank will come, along with high rankings! 8)

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pagerank is not as important as keyword ratings.

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I think I should point out that "get it right" does not just mean getting the on page optimization right. It also means creating pages that have content in which a webmaster would voluntarily link to it. Such as Do's and don'ts lists, faqs, Well consolidated facts on a theme, basically good content.

I thought I'd try and make it clear that well optimized doorway pages is simply not getting it right.

Getting it right imo is the balance of good content, on page optimization and carefully planned link / PR building. Not just getting your keywords and densities right.
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Darrin and webby are very true. Page ranking is not the only criterion for page Ranking .

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Here are a couple of companies who offer to build your link popularity, however as far as I know, they definitely do NOT charge by page rank but instead by the number of guaranteed reciprocal links achieved:
http://www.aboundinglinks.com/
http://www.linkagexpress.com/

I believe both are reputable although I have so far only used the 2nd mentioned with good results so far.

We all know that building quality reciprocal links is a time consuming occupation, and these people save you the time....at a price.
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Thanks for the replies everyone!
I've sent out requests for links myself, enough to get a pagerank of 5, but I had a recent competitor who hired a SEO company, and gradually built up to a pagerank of 6 and has become major competition.
I think I am doing all of the right things, at least optimizing correctly, but it seems as if I can't get much higher without increasing my pagerank.
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I agree you should be ranking higher for your key phrase. According to my keyword analysis tool your top 3 word phrase should be "paternity test kit" in which it occurs a total of 10 times. The next best 3 word phrase is "world wide paternity " (7 times). You rank top for the second place term "world wide paternity" but rank 28th for "paternity test kit" which has less competition. This is unusual as it is normally the other way around of course. One thing I noticed which raised my eyebrows was ..


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<h2><font color="white" face="Verdana" size="3">DNA Paternity Test Kit for Parentage Testing Services:</font></h2>


The important part being ... "font color="white" " This, without a table as you have it with a black background, would make the text invisible if written on the default background. Invisible text equals spam for google so it is POSSIBLE that this whole line is being ignored as Googles algo has been rumoured to colour match backgrounds and text.

I doubt this is the problem but I'd change it anyway if I was you just in case.

I dont think your density is too high at 5,43%. I'm wondering if there is some kind of limit though on number of three word phrase occurences. It is rare to get 10 occurences of three word phrases on one page. This might raise a spam flag. I just noticed by checking one back link the anchor text was "World-Wide Paternity Testing" which at least explains why with lower density and occurences that phrase out ranks the 'paternity test kit' phrase.
I also think your title tag is too long. I'd probably get rid of the words "low cost" in your title.

After all that however I still am baffled why with that phrase you are only ranked 28th.

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I know people who pay hundreds, if not thousands purchasing links on sites with high PR, in fact some webmasters make most of their money just selling space like this. Anyways, I think this is very effective just as long as:

1.) You aren't being put on just one high pr'ed page
If your on one PR9, you could still get a PR3. Better off getting links on an entire site of say PR7, which in theory would have one PR7, multiple PR6's, and alot of PR5's.

2.) Links aren't hidden
Pretty self explanatory

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quote: I know people who pay hundreds, if not thousands purchasing links on sites with high PR,.....

Respectfully, Iv'e been selling adverts on my Forums for about 4 years. I selll them directly in various incarnations and doing this on a Forum is perhaps the most difficult type of site on planet GEEK .

Iv'e never had an advertiser focus or even hint about PR. They all could care less.

What they do care about is ROI, quality, and targeting. No more and no less.

Having said this in as humble a fashion as I can , how about some URLs ? I am really interested in their media kits

Perhaps I missunderstood you so please excuse me, are they selling adverts or PR? Do they talk PR? Do they blend the two? Ive never seen a media kit in my space which talks PR or even hints at it and I'm in a space with HUGE sites that have 3x the traffic as I do and dozens of folks involved in the site.

Alan, your tool is fantastic. It gave me an idea and I'm curious to see if it can bump my SERPS up from 10 on a keyword phrase.

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Glad you like it Steve :-)
I'm hoping to get it to show densities as well in the next version and iron out a meta tag parsing problem with non conform meta tags (any php programming volunteers out there?? lol).

So whats this idea you have then ? :-)
BTW, for two and 3 word keyword phrases, I'm seeing a significant amount of top 3 rankings for sites that have between 6-8 keyword phrase occurences. This may however be coincidence.

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