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Old April 23rd, 2004, 11:05 PM
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Just when it was all starting to make sense...

I have a very new realtor directory site (see my sig) and it is PR0 but with the new PR update (modify your host as noted in a diff thread) it has a PR4. This is great! There are 56 links on the homepage of which 52 are internal. Now, with the my newly found knowledge that PR is an exponential scale with a factor somewhere between 6 and 8, I would then expect all my subpages to be PR2. There are no backlinks to any subpages - they derive all PR from the homepage.

So, I am happily shocked that all my subpages are PR3's. The only way I can make sense of this is that my homepage must be a very high PR4... right?

Can anyone find any other way to explain how the 52 internal subs have a PR3 pagerank?

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Old April 23rd, 2004, 11:36 PM
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So, I am happily shocked that all my subpages are PR3's. The only way I can make sense of this is that my homepage must be a very high PR4... right?

Well mine has always did that... then my home was PR5 and all links on it... then it became a PR6...
I'd say it's when your home and subpages become the same that you have a high PRx.
But I have only on site, it's what I saw on it.

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Old April 24th, 2004, 12:07 AM
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The site structure is definitely going to dictate PR flow. My site has PR flow that is very simple to follow ... from homepage to sub and out to partner sites with only a fraction returning to homepage. My subs provide no PR to other subs.

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Well mine has always did that... then my home was PR5 and all links on it... then it became a PR6...
I looked at your site link structure in-depth and on your site it makes sense that PR would build up in your subpages BEFORE your homepage. Once you get to one of your subpages, there are many links to other subpages and only a single link to the homepage. I didn't go to far with it, but I quickly started to model your PR flow and your subpages get the bulk of your PR and channel only a small percent back to your homepage.

If you are still trying to build the PR on your homepage, you may want to consider slightly re-working the structure of your subpages to channel more of the PR back to the homepage.

As an example ... this 3rd tier page:

http://www.cribbage.ca/cribbage_statistics_menu.htm

is a PR4 and has no link back to the homepage (maybe it has 1 but I didn't see it and even if there is only 1 it is insignificant PR flow). There are many links from this subpage to other subpages. IF (big if cause I have no idea how you trying to direct your PR, if at all) PR flow is important to you, then you may want to change the linking structure on this page.

Of course, you have to balance user experience with PR channeling, and if you are doing well in the SERPS, then totally disregard this.

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Old April 24th, 2004, 12:34 AM
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If you are still trying to build the PR on your homepage, you may want to consider slightly re-working the structure of your subpages to channel more of the PR back to the homepage...

I think you missed my logo on the top right on every pages...
My home page gets juice from all my pages...

My home page has always been the highest PR until subpages became equal to it. Then home went to the next PR level... until subpages became equal...

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See ... I knew there had to be at least 1 link back!

Still, your average interior page has 30 internal links .. of those only 1 is to the homepage. 1/30th of PR back to homepage and 29/30th's to other interior pages. Again, I'm not saying you want to or need to, but your site is not focusing PR on the homepage and it could.

But really my main point is ... for my directory website the PR channeling is very simple and given the fact this is the first PR update the homepage has had I don't expect there is any PR from the subs flowing back to the homepage until next PR update. So, is it a fair guestimate to make that the homepage must be a high PR4 to have made 52 internal PR3's?

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Still, your average interior page has 30 internal links .. of those only 1 is to the homepage. 1/30th of PR back to homepage and 29/30th's to other interior pages. Again, I'm not saying you want to or need to, but your site is not focusing PR on the homepage and it could.

I'm on a flat PR linking structure. Most PR is shared through all my MAIN pages. I use other pages than my home to rank.
Freeing my home page from lower keys to better aim at harder ones.

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I learned a lot from this post. Explains how my internal pr6 helps my home page pr5. Thanks.

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I'm on a flat PR linking structure. Most PR is shared through all my MAIN pages. I use other pages than my home to rank.
Freeing my home page from lower keys to better aim at harder ones.

I hope I didn't offend you. Your site looks great and you have a strategy that is working. I wasn't tying to say your linking structure is wrong ... only that it is different from mine and it makes sense to me why you would see the PR of the homepage equal to the PR of the subs just before your homepage bumped up.

If anyone can offer any explanation for what I'm seeing on my site other than the homepage being a high PR4 ... please share your thoughts. Again, it's the realtor directory in my sig....

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I learned a lot from this post. Explains how my internal pr6 helps my home page pr5. Thanks.

Happy it did...
At 1st you have to use a pyramid structure.
Basically only your home get ranks.
Then some subpages starts to join your pages as a second listing or a page or two after.
Slowly you move to a flat structure...
You drop the home for that key and focus on the second listed page... until your home is the second listed.
Then you change the home, removing focus from that key to put it on some harder one.

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I actually did it in the reverse. I focused on the Glossary (internal page) as a hook into universities and students while I worked the back room on providing financial analysis on the fly (over the Internet). Now moving into driving traffic to the home page and $. Took a long time, but we own kw's like: accounting dictionary, accounting glossary, and accounting terms. Working on owning: accounting ratios, industry ratios, etc. Any kw's having to do with financial analysis of companies and industries. Starting to payoff.

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I hope I didn't offend you. Your site looks great and you have a strategy that is working. I wasn't tying to say your linking structure is wrong ... only that it is different from mine ...

I did not get offended.

All sites are different and I'm pretty sure mine is not the best... It's basic and lots of stuff could/should be improved.

I would not submit it to the Relaxzoolander Ten site review quite right now...LOL

I tried to have a look at your site, but I did not get a PR for it... PR update is on it's way and the toolbar is drunk...
I'll try tomorrow...

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I would not submit it to the Relaxzoolander Ten site review quite right now...LOL



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