Page 3 - [June 29th] PageRank Update in Progress

Agrees!

I cant agreed at all, yes pagerank is a indirect factor but the most important one, i cant conceive that you all agree with this, i had seen websites with pagerank 4 higher than pagerank 7 or 6, how would you explain that.??? well its very easy google rankings are base by link quality, it doesnt matter if your partner links has pagerank 5-6-7-8-9 if their link quality is not bad you will not win gotting those links, so why would you worry about that... age, quality, content quality and site structure is what you need to see when you are trying to get a link from a website, i dont care if the website is pagerank 0 becuase i know that in the future that link that he got in his website aiming to mine will worth alot.

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Content and relevant links play a roll in your pages placement. The continued writing of great content and a strong link building strategy will propel your keywords/phrases. Page rank is an indication of how your link building strategy is coming along - it's like your report card at the end of the semester.

Google Sitemaps shows you which of your pages each month has the highest PR for that month although it doesn't tell you the actual PR number - 2 out of 3 months my main index carried the highest yet it is still one of the lowest, I hope this is an indicator I get a "B" to a "B+" this semester . I feel I am earning an "B" for keyword placement - jumped from 13000 uniques to 22700 uniques over the last 3 months - most of the 20 top search queries to my site are single digits according to Google Sitemaps (I'm liking GS so far).

Not true at all. I had websites that rank on top of other that have a better pagerank than me... Exchanging links like crazy will boost your pagerank but not your rankings, but if you exchange links carefully and a small amount you will boost your rankings but not your pagerank...

Conclusion: Pagerank is not a indication of nothing, its only a way to say i will crawl your website more often. The only things that works like a indicator of how good ar bad you are doing in SE is the rankings, if you are on top you are doing it good, but if you are in spot 200 you got a problem and your campaign is not working.

I didn't mention exchanging links - building relevant links helps your contents placement in the SE. As I read somewhere, you can place a sign in the middle of the desert with the answer to the meaning of life but if no roads lead to it it's just a sign in the middle of the desert nobody will see. Just being indexed isn't enough. It is a combination of great content and the importance placed on it by those who link to it and the type of link it is. Content is King but a King without the peasants is just a really smart man talking to himself.

That is true

This is not true:

Adding enough links to your site will produce a higher PR if your amount of links compares well to the other sites on the web. If all other sites produce more links than you do your PR may stay the same or even drop. (I know I am really simplifying this and there is a lot of variables). I think the PR update, when it occurs, is like a report card of how my link building strategy is coming along.

Your are saying something totally different than what you had said up there, this post is correct i agree with it, but i dont see how pagerank can be usefull to indicate how good a link strategy is comming, this is certainly irrelevant.

I will explain it to you again, if your pagerank indicator theory was true why will a website that has a lower pagerank rank on top of a website that has a better pagerank? if your theory was true this wasnt supose to happend, becuase you had said "pagerank is a indicator of how good a link campaign is going" or something like that, well in this example doesnt fit at what you had said...

I don't mean to be confusing and I have only attempted to clarify my position through some analogies.

Bottom line is this; links make PR. SE placement is content which is provided relevance by links. Poorly written content with all the links in the world will still not be seen (content doesn't contain keywords/phrases people are searching for).

I haven't said anything different than this, although I will agree I could have spent more time writing my explanations for the viewers in the cheap seats.

Pagerank is "one" of the most important factors affecting rankings.
We've seen lots of cases where low pr sites outrank high pr sites, so there're def other important factors, like content, anchor, link relevance etc..

but in general high pr sites are old reliable and trusted by google sites, so that's of course quite important

You havent read my post.!!!!???... i had already said that i got websites that have a lower pagerank but they rank on top of some high ones...

You have multiple sites competing for the same keywords?

I do agree your pages PR has nothing to do with your keyword placement. Relevant links however are a factor. Don't produce links just for links sake expecting your SE placement to increase. Maybe this is where you have been confused about my posts.

Frankly I'm amazed at your naivity in this matter. Yes you are right it's possible for lower visible PageRank sites to rank better than higher PageRank sites. No one here (I do not think) is saying that PageRank is the ONLY factor in a sites ranking. As others have said, content is key, so are various on-site modifications. If you have a huge PR but no or little content, of course you wont rank well.

To say that PageRank is not a useful indictator though I think is slightly irresponsible and far too blasé. Yes, visible PageRank is not the only thing to look at, but it's certainly a factor. Try searching for PR7 and 8 sites, and you will see them rank well.

Why are you reply with this, its the same thing i am talking about... thats my point... you are just making my post more clear:

Pagerank is not a direct or relative factor for SE....