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Old August 26th, 2006, 03:54 AM
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page rank important

For a site to have search engine ranking or top placement in search engine page rank is not important. But from link exchange point of view..and other similar strageies..page rank has relevance.
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so if PR doesnt get you higher ranking in google what does?
all that time i thought that was the point, geting higher ranking in google?

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For a site to have search engine ranking or top placement in search engine page rank is not important. But from link exchange point of view..and other similar strageies..page rank has relevance.

Yes i Agree. Hi PR can help in achieving Good SERP indirectly.
Because on the basis of good PR one can achieve good and relevant backlinks from well established sites by link exchange.
and quality backlinks from quality site always going to help u in achieving SERP.

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Old August 30th, 2006, 12:32 AM
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so if not PR, what should i be focusing on to get my new website of the ground,please help!!

i thought higher PR was to get your website on the 1st page and on top of google searches. So all i do get is get quality links and that will do the job?

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Old August 30th, 2006, 05:07 AM
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google pagerank doesn't any affect on your site search postion
if you have higher page rank googlebot will come to your site more than the past

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i get Googlebot like 2 or 3 times a Day visiting my website, does that mean next PR update il have a higher PR just needs a update?

and geting search positions a different story? how do i get that,

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Logically, there is a connection between PR and the quality of links but not always. You can find some low PR websites ranking better than high PR competitors.

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I wanted my website to be optimized, the seo told me tht page rank is of no use. is this true. pls let me know.


Page rank is important. It determines the number of backlinks your site has. Higher the backlinks higher the page rank. This also helps to improve your search engine postioning.

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The PR number (PR1 - PR10) itself is unimportant in where you place in the SERPs. It just says you have backlinks from others with PR rank. Get enough or high ranking ones and you have a higher PR. This PR in itself does not say that the page, whether a PR0 or a PR10, is going to rank well for any given keyword search/query.

What is important is if those backlinks also have subject matter or content that directly relates to your keyword(s). Get enough "relevant" backlinks and only have a PR of 3-4, you will place above a PR6-7 that does not have as many or better "relevant" backlinks.

Bottomline: For good SERPs results, PR itself is meaningless. What counts is how relevant your backlinks are to any given search query.
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you can still get a quality link without a good PR, but it is not that easy. by giving them favor for the quality links you want. for one of many example: writing them a quality articles for your link back.For me, pr is not a big deal, pr have a part on SE's ranks but it is just only option.

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I see this all the time...the Pro PR Team vs. the Anti PR Team. Where do I stand? Well lets first begin with some examples.....No PR is not everything, however, there is a correlation between good rankings and high PR. Yes some pages have ranked well for keywords without having a high PR, but you'll find that they are a click or 2 away from a high PR page. Or, that site has inbound links from another relevant site with high PR. I like to look at this like a VIP party....You come with some hotties (high PR) you are going to get looked at first and let in....You show up with Measly Martha, you'll stay at the back of the line and possibly get your chance if she has some good personality (good content).

If time is of the essence, then it will be faster to get high PR pages ranked for competitive keywords...if you are in no rush, then continue to write good content every day, and you will see Martha slowly lose weight, and gain rankings through her extreme makeover....

I like analogies...

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Teknicks... you do not understand the basic difference between high PR and high SERP placement. You like analogies:

High PR George is a very rich guy wearing nice clothes and driving a fancy car. Wow! All the babes want him.

The best girl out theres Mom (Google) wants to find the best husband (keyword: best husband) for her baby girl (the searcher).

The mom (Google) will first take a look at the flashy guy (crawls the site based upon PR rank) and finds that the high PR George is not recommended by others as the "best husband".

The mom (Google) finds that actually Moderate PR Harry is much more highly recommended although he is not in nice clothes, driving a fancy car (lower PR).

Mom (Google) will ignore High PR George and introduce her baby girl (the searcher) to Moderate PR Harry (lower PR but higher SERPs placement) knowing that he is much more highly recommended (backlinks) as the "best husband" (keyword).

Of course, mom (Google) will let her baby girl (searcher) know that she also looked at High PR George but did not like him as much (has higher PR but is lower in the SERPs).

The above analogy is the real world of PR vs SERP placement. Backlinks from relevant sites give PR yes, but more importantly they tell the search engine where on the relevancy scale (SERP) the page should place. The winner is always the most relevant page.
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Yes Page rank is not important for a site to have good Search engine results.

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Interesting analogy...I did clearly say that PR is not everything, and that there is a correlation between high PR and rankings. And there is...supported by your statement:

The mom (Google) will first take a look at the flashy guy (crawls the site based upon PR rank) and finds that the high PR George is not recommended by others as the "best husband".

All I am saying is that....the high PR sites get a "chance" first just because he has high PR. Yes you are correct, upon further examination Google may not choose to rank him as high as moderate PR guy, but he indeed gets his day in court first...so assuming the high PR guys is optimized, relevant, and has quality backlinks, he will indeed rank well. Thus the correlation. Its not everything, but there is a correlation.

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Teknicks... you do not understand the basic difference between high PR and high SERP placement. You like analogies:

High PR George is a very rich guy wearing nice clothes and driving a fancy car. Wow! All the babes want him.

The best girl out theres Mom (Google) wants to find the best husband (keyword: best husband) for her baby girl (the searcher).

The mom (Google) will first take a look at the flashy guy (crawls the site based upon PR rank) and finds that the high PR George is not recommended by others as the "best husband".

The mom (Google) finds that actually Moderate PR Harry is much more highly recommended although he is not in nice clothes, driving a fancy car (lower PR).

Mom (Google) will ignore High PR George and introduce her baby girl (the searcher) to Moderate PR Harry (lower PR but higher SERPs placement) knowing that he is much more highly recommended (backlinks) as the "best husband" (keyword).

Of course, mom (Google) will let her baby girl (searcher) know that she also looked at High PR George but did not like him as much (has higher PR but is lower in the SERPs).

The above analogy is the real world of PR vs SERP placement. Backlinks from relevant sites give PR yes, but more importantly they tell the search engine where on the relevancy scale (SERP) the page should place. The winner is always the most relevant page.

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The only way you will get a higher PR is by making sure that your entire website is well optimized, have a fair amout of relevant links pointing at you (not just any link), a the proper keywords.


Incorrect, the formula for getting a high pagerank is very simple, you just need to get links, it doesnt matter if your website is in flash or html or even it doesnt have any content at all still all you need is backlinks...

This thread had gone too far, i dont know why people still ask this... we talk about this probably once every 2 weeks and we all agree that pagerank doesnt have any direct effect over rankings...
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