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Old June 1st, 2004, 08:57 AM
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Formula for PR

I've seen posts mentioning terms like 'strong' PR5, statements that a PR7 page has 'X' times more backlinks than a PR6, etc.

I know the Google algo is secret, but how can one know whether a page is a 'strong' or 'weak' PR5 or PR6? In other words, is there any way to tell if a page has a long way to go before it gets another PR point or if it is almost there?

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I know the Google algo is secret, but how can one know whether a page is a 'strong' or 'weak' PR5 or PR6? In other words, is there any way to tell if a page has a long way to go before it gets another PR point or if it is almost there?

If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR4 ---> weak PR5.
If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR5 ---> strong PR5

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Old June 1st, 2004, 10:29 AM
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If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR5 ---> strong PR5
GREAT - one of my sites is like this, some of the second-level pages are PR5 but most are PR4.

My feeling is this site's PR is diluted between four domain names. It has had two different domains pointed to it for several years, and both the www. and non-www versions of the domains show PR (three have PR5 one is PR3)

Both domain names (with www) have backlinks - one currently shows 55 backlinks, the other shows 147 backlinks. Would I be smart to use a 301 redirect from one of the domains to force all incoming links to end up on a single domain? I know I can't expect to get the backlinks themselves changed, but would a redirect help at all? I'd sure like to see this site end up as a PR6 or better.

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If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR4 ---> weak PR5.
If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR5 ---> strong PR5


This makes the assumption that the homepage is the highest PR page of the site.

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I could be tempted to have a little play with my site www.ashcentre.co.uk to see if I can influence the Pagerank. It was the first site I did when I hadn't got a clue.

Although wouldn't I have to do something pretty drastic to get PR5 to PR6? With a 60 page site, how much can I influence it by linking back to the home page and less to sub pages?

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I could be tempted to have a little play with my site www.ashcentre.co.uk to see if I can influence the Pagerank. It was the first site I did when I hadn't got a clue.

Although wouldn't I have to do something pretty drastic to get PR5 to PR6? With a 60 page site, how much can I influence it by linking back to the home page and less to sub pages?


As a start how about a sitemap linked to from _every_ page on the site. From the sitemap list every page you have. Should result in some more even PR distribution to some of your lower level pages and with only 60 pages should be quite useful for a visitor too.

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That's a brilliant idea! Why didn't I think of that lol.

Is there an easy way to do it? Any site map generator tools?

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That's a brilliant idea! Why didn't I think of that lol.

Is there an easy way to do it? Any site map generator tools?


We're old fashioned and prefer to code everything by hand :-)

However I do seem to recall seeing a post about one somewhere here but I can't find it.

Google turned up this: http://www.likno.com/sitemap.html, that might be interesting.

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Try xenu

Xenu link checker will both check links and make primitive site map for you which you can enhance.

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Thanks for those.

I've just found one in Frontpage. Looks a bit tortuous but I'll give it a go first.

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Here is a recent article about calculating PR

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If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR4 ---> weak PR5.
If home is PR5 and 1st level subpages are PR5 ---> strong PR5



This makes the assumption that the homepage is the highest PR page of the site.

Regards, S

and there are not very much links on the homepage. If there are 200 links I doubt your 1st level subpages will be PR5.
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What if you about half of your pages are PR5 and the other PR4? I guess we are just a Plain PR5... And what is the deal with the 'www' some of our pages have a PR5 with the 'www' and a PR0 without it.

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As a start how about a sitemap linked to from _every_ page on the site. From the sitemap list every page you have. Should result in some more even PR distribution to some of your lower level pages and with only 60 pages should be quite useful for a visitor too.

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for gay that is a good idea, but doesn't google limit it to 140 links? if so, then a sitemap only does you some good if you have a lot of pages. is there a solution for bigger sites? multiple sitemaps?
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for gay that is a good idea, but doesn't google limit it to 140 links? if so, then a sitemap only does you some good if you have a lot of pages. is there a solution for bigger sites? multiple sitemaps?

I dont think there is a limit to the amount of links on a page that can get crawled (unless you go over 100kb), once you start to get over 100kb on a page then you run in to trouble.

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