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Old September 6th, 2007, 09:17 PM
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Example of fake PR FYI
I got a link exchange request and noticed the strange delay in PR comming up. The link request said this page has a PR6

www.vonage-forum.com/sitemapforums-other.php

But if you just put the adress of the page into google and search you find the page is not even in the index at all.

Be carefull people when judging PR of pages..
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Never judge a page by PR. Better check out it's rankings before ( it happened me to see PR1/2/3 pages to be listed in the top for extremely competitive keywords - I was kind of surprised at that moment ), check out it's backlinks, check out it's content.
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I got a link exchange request and noticed the strange delay in PR comming up. The link request said this page has a PR6

www.vonage-forum.com/sitemapforums-other.php

But if you just put the adress of the page into google and search you find the page is not even in the index at all.

Be carefull people when judging PR of pages..

Cool. Thanks for the heads-up. I guess with so many people judging value based on PR alone, it was only a matter of time before someone started with PR-forgeries.

Time to start holding high-PR pages up to the light before you accept them as currency...
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Cool. Thanks for the heads-up. I guess with so many people judging value based on PR alone, it was only a matter of time before someone started with PR-forgeries.

Time to start holding high-PR pages up to the light before you accept them as currency...
Yep.. also the longer out from a PR update the less you can trust visable PR of showing anything..
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I was conducting a Link Exchange right now, and I'm looking for a site that is relevant to us. Actually I'm not looking at the PR of the site, what I'm looking at is the traffic and the content of the site.
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I don't see why everyone is getting hung up on PR. PR won't get you business (unless you're selling links). People should buy advertisements for to get correct traffic so that every visitor has a chance of coverting to a customer. Chasing PR is a lose end because probably Google will frig it so that people can't sell on it. All your efforts are in their hands. If they abandon PR in its current form then all that chasing time you've lost when you could have been chasing SERPS and good advertising.

These are just my opinions.

What's the point of a high PR site if you've got no customers?
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I don't see why everyone is getting hung up on PR. PR won't get you business (unless you're selling links). People should buy advertisements for to get correct traffic so that every visitor has a chance of coverting to a customer. Chasing PR is a lose end because probably Google will frig it so that people can't sell on it. All your efforts are in their hands. If they abandon PR in its current form then all that chasing time you've lost when you could have been chasing SERPS and good advertising.

These are just my opinions.

What's the point of a high PR site if you've got no customers?


No point. Exactly. However - this forum section IS called Google Page Rank and that's what is being discussed here for whatever reason ;-)
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that's why i'am not based on PR when it talks about the quality of the site.. its better to consider quality IBL, and link popularity as well as how it gains traffic.
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Question Dirty scum!
I did a search in Google and now the URL comes up... I guess maybe they read this forum post or they got smart.

What's their real PR?
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Originally Posted by gazzahk
I got a link exchange request and noticed the strange delay in PR comming up. The link request said this page has a PR6

www.vonage-forum.com/sitemapforums-other.php

But if you just put the adress of the page into google and search you find the page is not even in the index at all.

Be carefull people when judging PR of pages..


When i typed the URL it was indexed, and it is cached,

20443 inbound links to the domain on yahoo site explorer

29 links from .edu / .gov domains

looks clean to me
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Old-school black hat crap....

Use this TOOL to see if they are using it.

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I was conducting a Link Exchange right now, and I'm looking for a site that is relevant to us. Actually I'm not looking at the PR of the site, what I'm looking at is the traffic and the content of the site.


I know we're in the google pr thread but this is a very important point - thinking of your market/niche is more important because it has a direct impact very quickly - if you have a new site it can take a very long time to get listed in Google and you need to get customers fast...

just my thoughts...
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When i typed the URL it was indexed, and it is cached,

20443 inbound links to the domain on yahoo site explorer

29 links from .edu / .gov domains

looks clean to me
If you put this url www.vonage-forum.com/sitemapforums-other.php without the http:// into google search box this page does not come up at all. Yet if you type in url into location bar says PR6. The page itself is not in the index. The PR6 for that page is fake. Their will be absolultly no link juice transfer from a page not in the index. But this comapny is using the lure of a pr6 page to attract links.

The results from gary's recommended tool

Quote:
Submitted URL
You entered the url: www.vonage-forum.com/sitemapforums-other.php



The submitted domain name: vonage-forum.com
does not match Google results url:

We can't verify this pagerank.
Google says its a PR "6", but an info: check doesn't return any info, which is suspicious.
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