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Old September 27th, 2003, 10:29 PM
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Defying PageRank Calculator

The website http://www.a1-hgh.com has a PR5, #2 SERP under the "hgh" search term, and seems to be defying the PR calculator. Not only do they have many (14) internal links on every page but on their Homepage they have an additional 5 outbound offsite links which should be hurting their PR according to the PR calculator. These 5 outbound links are going to 2 PR5, 1 PR4, and 2 PR0 sites. Can anyone tell me how they maintain their PR5?

Unrelated to the calculator but related to PR and SERP they have a good number of resource links mostly of lower PR's and in unrelated industries. How the heck do they maintain their high SERP?

My PR5 site SERP #7, http://www.21stcenturyhgh.com, has a third the number of links but are mostly PR5's and PR6's and all in related industies. Should I be going for quantity rather than quality in my linking strategy?

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Old September 28th, 2003, 09:40 AM
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All of these pages listed for HGH look like they are real close in rankings. Google shows about 10 more links for him over you. His anchor text has to be helping as well. I would say this is a situation where a hyphenated domain is really helping out. Every single link he gets has the anchor text of HGH in it based on his URL.

If you can bring in some more links I have see no reason why you can't take over top stop. You need the correct anchor text as well. Unfortunately Google doesn't check links based on the "relevance" of the link. It doesn't matter if your link is on a health site or a real estate site, as of now. Google is of course constantly changing.

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Old September 28th, 2003, 12:35 PM
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This was really good information. Thanks! It helps in grunting for links to know that there is only a sliver of difference between us all.

I can’t change my url to one that’s hyphenated, but I can change my anchor text. When you talk about “anchor text” do you mean the text that is his “title,” “description,” or the “title of the link” coming back to him from other sites. I have “HGH” in all those areas so I don’t see how he has an advantage there, or does he?

The fact that my high PR links may help me in the future, if and when Google adds relevancy, is a small consolation.

I’m still curious as to why his internal link strategy isn’t hurting him much more because according to the PR calculator his PR should be sucking.

Thanks again for your opinions!

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Old September 28th, 2003, 02:49 PM
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When I talk about anchor text, I mean the text that is contained in the clickable portion of a link from another site to his. Anything contained in the <a href="">Link Text(HGH)</a>

Since his domain is hyphenated, he naturally gets HGH as anchor text in every link back to his site, and probably twice since it will be likely linked in the text link part as well.

This keyword is one of those that has pretty much maxed out on on page factors. All the sites have the keywords everywhere. The only way to get ahead is more links from other sites with relevant anchor text, and/or higher PR.

Finally, the PR calculator can be misleading. From a brief look at his site, he has 8 pages extensively interlinked (all pages link to every other page).

With that small number of pages and linked that way, there isn't really any leaks. Extensively interlinked is the best method of linking when you want all pages to have equal PR, so it isn't a horrible method. Seeing how his main page ranks #1 for his primary phrase, distributing the rest of the PR across the other pages makes sense.

With an extensively interlinked site with so few pages, his PR isn't going to "suck," it just isn't focused onto a single page. One more thing to note is the use of internet link anchor text. All internal pages link to the home page simply as "HGH" This boosts him nicely for that term.

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Old September 30th, 2003, 12:56 PM
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Where can I find this PR calculator?

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Harvey you also must realize that you cant leak recieved PR - only the possibility of more PR from algorithmic augmentation so he may be recieving enough PR from his partners to make him a PR 5 without boosting it with his own pages, if this was the case then if he managed it properly then he might well be a PR 6 - lets just hope he doesnt come across SEO Chat

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Here's a simpler PageRank Calculator.

It is pretty right on if you use the Advance PageRank Calculator view and change the average number of backlinks.

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