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    Wording in your Title


    Hello all, quick question for ya.

    On your title tag. Lets say you want to go after 3 keywords for paper shredders.

    You have two choices

    Paper Shredders - Paper Shredder - Paper Shredding

    or would it be better to go for

    Paper - Shredders - Shredder - Shredding

    Is it ok to repeat the keyword.
    I apologize if this was answered before.

    Thanks for the help.
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    I would go with:

    Paper Shredders - Paper Shredder - Paper Shredding

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    The first choice, it has paper more times.
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    Paper Shredders - Paper Shredder - Paper Shredding


    this style works best for me
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    Paper Shredders - Paper Shredder - Paper Shredding, works the best in my experience.

    It's ok to repeat your keyword in your title tag, but don't overdo it, 3 times is okay.
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    I'd personally go for something a little more descriptive - it's one thing to win the battle for the ranking and another to win the battle for the actual click. A title like that might put people off and they might instead go for the more descriptive page BELOW you titled
    'A paper shredder for your shredding needs | 100+ paper shredders to choose from'.

    (I think that would still get all your keywords included)

    Try to construct a sentence that has all of them in there and still makes as a reasonably nice looking title that will actually entice the visitors.
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    Good point daamsie.

    I am starting to put more emphasis on my "description" now as well. Has anyone actually tried playing around with that actual description sniplet of text that google picks out of the middle of your page by the way?

    What I am aiming to do is to leave my keywords in exactly the same places with making the rest of the text sound better. If I do NOT vary the positioning of individual words, but simply exchange them by other words of apprx. the same overall length I should be o.k., shouldnt I? Or is that naive thinking. Anyone tried this yet?
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    I think that is pretty much the right concept Dan, although I haven't tried it myself.. It is a bit of a tricky thing to implement, but I guess I would look at the snippet, and see how many words are being chosen to the left and right of the keyword/keyphrase and try to make a sentence of that length that looks appealing..

    Of course, by doing that you may very well create a strange description for another keyphrase on the same page ;)
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    Thanks for the advice, daamsie. Now I forgive you that you went on at me in the other thread ;-)

    I will let you know once I am wiser.
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    lol.. I wasn't having a go at you.. just defending my choice of example

    Curious to see how you go with these descriptions.
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    if i am a consumer....i am not going to type 'shredding' into a search box if i want to buy a paper shredder.
    i would also consider people who would spell it with one 'd'.
    ---paper shreder.
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    shredder


    i guess i would also add that i really hate keyword oppressed titles. they are ugly and devalue the site in my opinion....
    in other words....kinda 'cheesy' and unprofessional...despite their ability to get ranking.
    also...when saving to favorites....if you bump your business name off the title in favore of more keywords....it really makes a mess of the link name in the visitors favs.
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    i would also consider people who would spell it with one 'd'.
    Isn't that what google's 'did you mean.. ' is for? I don't really see much point in optimizing for typos.. I think that is more ugly (and unprofessional) than a keyword stuffed title.. after all "if you can't SPELL it, then how can you know what you're talking about"?

    note.. 'paper shredding' is searched ten times as much as 'paper shreder' according to overture's search term suggestion tool.

    good point on keeping the business name in there though.. I tend to agree with that.. although I feel it can sit at the end of the title, rather than at the start.
    Last edited by daamsie; Sep 17th, 2003 at 10:51 PM.
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    There's good money to be made snarffing up misspellings. Competition is usually thin and you can optimize a separate page for them. There are lots of misspellings with counts of over 1000 on overture - for high-ticket items.
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    I get tons of traffic for phentrimine
    "phentermine" is the actual drugname
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