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    Web Rings


    I was told elsewhere that web-rings hurt your Google Optimization, I am part of two aquarium web rings to drive legitimate customers to my site, but I do not want hurt my Google and other Search Engine optimization.

    What is the truth?
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    Google doesn't exactly spell it out in their guidlelines, neither does Yahoo's, but I've heard they consider them a link exchange.

    I would like to include a few of my client's sites in some nich webrings their sites would fit in well with... but have been too scared to, worrying about penalties.
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    Any/all schemes that create artificial links are considered just that; artificial links. Not worth the risk.

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    Originally Posted by Swirleigh
    Google doesn't exactly spell it out in their guidlelines, neither does Yahoo's, but I've heard they consider them a link exchange.

    I would like to include a few of my client's sites in some nich webrings their sites would fit in well with... but have been too scared to, worrying about penalties.
    Thank you very much for the reply.
    That kind of scares me when an expert is worried about penalties.
    this also brings up another question based on your response; Are link exchanges bad? I thought they counted in a volume sort of way, not as good as one way and especially not as good as one way with similar content.
    I have all three, and I hand select my exchanges manually some are sent by Link Market), and place them in a link directory one page removed from home page.
    The Web rings are on home page, which maybe is not a good thing?
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    Originally Posted by raz
    Any/all schemes that create artificial links are considered just that; artificial links. Not worth the risk.

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    So I should dump the rings?
    My intentions are not to create artificial links but to be noticed by hobbyist's.

    Thanks for your response, Carl
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    Originally Posted by cstrohmeyer
    Thank you very much for the reply.
    That kind of scares me when an expert is worried about penalties.
    this also brings up another question based on your response; Are link exchanges bad?.....................
    Link exchanges are not bad, link pages are bad!

    In other words, lets say your site is about shoes and you have a page about tanning leather and you give link to the leather tanner from that page and he gives a link to you from a content page in his site. Now that's a good link exchange.

    Of course by it's vary nature, it will be difficult to add hundreds of links that way but they will be useful.

    raz
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    Originally Posted by cstrohmeyer
    So I should dump the rings?
    My intentions are not to create artificial links but to be noticed by hobbyist's.

    Thanks for your response, Carl
    Dump the ring and establish relationships from content pages.

    raz
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    Originally Posted by raz
    Link exchanges are not bad, link pages are bad!

    In other words, lets say your site is about shoes and you have a page about tanning leather and you give link to the leather tanner from that page and he gives a link to you from a content page in his site. Now that's a good link exchange.

    Of course by it's vary nature, it will be difficult to add hundreds of links that way but they will be useful.

    raz
    I have several inbound and some outbound in that context.

    I guess link pages are on their way out and I need to cut off Link Market.
    This link exchange stuff takes a lot of time besides and a lot of sites cheat and pull their links after two weeks.

    Thank you again, Carl
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    Consider the links "out of your website" like any other set of links that you really have no cotrol over quality e.g. anyone can join a web ring thus you link to "everyone" in the ring whether you "vouch for them or not".

    Include the rel="nofollow" in all links of the web ring code and you'll be ok... (that is if you really wish to keep it).
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    Originally Posted by fathom
    Consider the links "out of your website" like any other set of links that you really have no cotrol over quality e.g. anyone can join a web ring thus you link to "everyone" in the ring whether you "vouch for them or not".

    Include the rel="nofollow" in all links of the web ring code and you'll be ok... (that is if you really wish to keep it).
    Where do you place the rel="nofollow" in the code. I tried placing it where i thought it belonged, but it just erased the banner from my page.
    Here is the banner code.

    Thank you once again! Carl

    <!-- EasyBanner Pro code begin -->
    <center>
    <script language="JavaScript">
    document.write('<s'+'cript language="JavaScript"
    src="http://www.FishBanners.com/work.php?n=139&size=1&j=1&c=&code='+new Date().getTime()+'"></s'+'cript>');
    </script>
    <NOSCRIPT>
    <IFRAME SRC= "http://www.FishBanners.com/work.php?n=139&size=1&c=" width=468 height=75 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 hspace=0 vspace=0 frameborder=0 scrolling="no"></IFRAME>
    </NOSCRIPT>
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    This is a link scam... remove it.

    You have no control over the page the links reside on (even though it is displayed on your website.
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    Originally Posted by fathom
    This is a link scam... remove it.

    You have no control over the page the links reside on (even though it is displayed on your website.
    Sorry to ask so many questions, but what did you see in the code that makes it scam.
    I ran a link check for the 3 main search engines and this one did show up on Yahoo and MSN, but not that high where as another web ring came up high in the checks.

    I placed the code you gave me in thay one.
    Here it is if I placed it right:
    <script type="text/javascript"
    src="http://ss.webring.com/navbar?f=j;y=cstrohmeyer;u=defurl"></script>
    <noscript><center><table bgcolor=gray cellspacing=0 border=2 bordercolor=red>
    <tr><td><table cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr><td align=center>
    <font face=arial size=-1>This site is a member of WebRing.
    To browse visit rel="nofollow"
    <a href="http://ss.webring.com/navbar?f=l;y=cstrohmeyer;u=defurl">
    here</a>.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></center></noscript>

    Once again thank you for your advice!!, Carl
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