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Old September 20th, 2006, 04:15 AM
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Various Domains - Best option for indexing all

Hi,

We have many domain names - .com, .net, .co.uk, .info etc

Now I want them all indexed on google.... My question is as follows.

1. Would a 301 redirect surfice? would google index a domain name that has a 301 redirect or not?

Or If I create one page with totally different content that has a link to our companies main site be ok? or would this be classed as a doorway? - or could i use the 'no-follow' on the link? if so would this stop it being picked up as a doorway page?

Basically I want to get all these domain names indexed.... but i dont want to develop 8 - 9 different websites for the company which are all unique content... I dont mind doing one page...

I just want thes domain names to appear when someone puts in our company name on google.


I need an absolute answer to this as our main companies website is doing very well in th serps for high keywords and i dont want to effect this in anyway

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Old September 20th, 2006, 04:20 AM
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if you used a 301 re-direct then no it would not work because this basically tells google its moved and do not index it, but the other page.

What i advise is just keep the main company site. Do not worry about the others, and use a 301 redirect as you wont really need them all indexed. but it will be good to have all the options of the .com co.uk .net ect. for people who are not sure which one it is for your site.
This way your main site wont be effected.


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Hi,

We have many domain names - .com, .net, .co.uk, .info etc

Now I want them all indexed on google.... My question is as follows.

1. Would a 301 redirect surfice? would google index a domain name that has a 301 redirect or not?

Or If I create one page with totally different content that has a link to our companies main site be ok? or would this be classed as a doorway? - or could i use the 'no-follow' on the link? if so would this stop it being picked up as a doorway page?

Basically I want to get all these domain names indexed.... but i dont want to develop 8 - 9 different websites for the company which are all unique content... I dont mind doing one page...

I just want thes domain names to appear when someone puts in our company name on google.


I need an absolute answer to this as our main companies website is doing very well in th serps for high keywords and i dont want to effect this in anyway

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Old September 20th, 2006, 04:32 AM
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Hi, I appreciate your option and I have thought about this

But I really need the other domain names indexed....Why??

Well

If you search for our company name on google then there are other sites on the first page that are negative towards our company.... ie blogs, forums etc that have past customers of ours complaining - now whilst every company has a few unsatisfied customers, I really dont want these to appear on the first page of google.... so my plan is to fill the first page with our other urls...

So im looking for an option

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You cant make a page with nothing on it, only a redirect be able to get to the front page for any keyword. It would not be indexed. Unless you made them as each have the same index page (though different content) and then the links that are on them then go to your main site?

The thing is you are going to need to get quality links from sites as well to get anywhere with the other sites. so may be worth having a links section for each domain. But bare in mind these are becoming less relevent each day in google.

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Hi, I appreciate your option and I have thought about this

But I really need the other domain names indexed....Why??

Well

If you search for our company name on google then there are other sites on the first page that are negative towards our company.... ie blogs, forums etc that have past customers of ours complaining - now whilst every company has a few unsatisfied customers, I really dont want these to appear on the first page of google.... so my plan is to fill the first page with our other urls...

So im looking for an option

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I really dont want these to appear on the first page of google.... so my plan is to fill the first page with our other urls...


Intentions like that will force you to undertake black hat tactics unless you do it ethically....

Why not fight fire with fire and use these other domains to post positive customer testimonials.....talk about your products, link to the products.....

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Ok.. I think that might sound somewhat stupid but i have something to tell..

Make a few backlinks for all the domains..and let them get indexed in google or other SE`s..

Then Set Up frames on these other domains pointing to your main website that you want your visitors to see..

I guess your problem will be solved as crawler does not enters into frames, but will only index homepage..

And the users will see your website that you wanna show in the frames.. may it be any domain..(.net,com,us etc) and that too without triggering duplicate content penalty.

So, all domains indexed and your main site available for visitors without SE to know about whats exactly in them..

Worth?

But Please note.. Do not use frames in your Main website as it might land u in trouble..cralwer will throw all your website pages in Supp index ..(Just a caution for the Main website)

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karma_killer, I have a different suggestion. I honestly do not know how many domains you are talking about, but I would most certainly look at my actual site layout and utilising the different domains within it. Almost like you would use domain aliases like seochat is doing. If you have a dynamic site perhaps split up static sections on your main site into different sections pointing to the different domains? For example the main site you are currently using for SEO purposes will have a blog and news section which is dynamic. Now you can utilise the other domains, to display some of the blog information linking back to the dynamic site. Further the contact us page can for example be yoursite.net, etc. I honestly don't see any big issues with regards to this. Just be carefull not to use dynamic content share between the different domains in such a way that you hit a duplicate content filter... An added bonus will be that the internal linking structure will assist your different domains with well themed contextual backlinks.

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Thanks to all...

I do not want to use any blackhat techniques...

But i do want to use these domain names and get them indexed without google penalising us..

So basically you are stating, that it is fine to use these domains for lets say testimonials, blogs etc providing i do not use any content from my main site? and i will be fine linking all these domains together?

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Spot on. Just remember, fresh content is the ranking requirement atm. Therefore when making a decision on which domain to use for what, make sure that the main domain will have regular content added.

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Thanks to all...

I do not want to use any blackhat techniques...

But i do want to use these domain names and get them indexed without google penalising us..

So basically you are stating, that it is fine to use these domains for lets say testimonials, blogs etc providing i do not use any content from my main site? and i will be fine linking all these domains together?


Not a black hat.. its what you wanted.. its a white hat thing..

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Just a thought... Do you currently hold a top 10 spot for your chosen keywords? 'cos if you don't - going down this road will make it a lot harder for you to achieve that!

Personally I think that your aims are unreasonable - it's OK to want to get your site to #1 but to specifically want to "remove" other sites from top results is BH in it's intent... and imho the only way you will achieve it is with BH methods!

Split your content over multiple domains if you wish but - if it's a competitive market you would achieve much better results if it were all on one site.

Finally - if the only reason is because of negative feedback on those competitor sites my answer would be to get - and hold - the #1 position... never mind the rest; after all - if you are indisputably #1, the competition will knock you for any reason they can... so - if you dominate the serps it's much easier for you to convince readers that you also dominate your market... then the "negative feedback" could actually be seen as a positive!
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Yes we do hold top 10 spots...

The keyword in this instance though is our company name... so when you type in company name we are No 1, 2, 4,5...

We hold top 10 spots for major keywords as well!! but this is not what i am trying to influence.

Our comapny name results is, when you search our company name

Watchdog is 3rd and ciao - the famous review site is 6th n 7th then some harmful customer blog at 8th

we have all variations urls - which are all our company name

ie - companyname.com, company-name.net etc etc.

All I want is to get these sites indexed so that when you type in our company name on the search it lists them all...

I am not going to use these sites for targeted competitive keywords like 'blue widgets' or for any other reason..

With regard to your comments "Finally - if the only reason is because of negative feedback on those competitor sites my answer would be to get - and hold - the #1 position... never mind the rest; after all - if you are indisputably #1, the competition will knock you for any reason they can... so - if you dominate the serps it's much easier for you to convince readers that you also dominate your market... then the "negative feedback" could actually be seen "

The negative feedback is not made by any competitor... and if it were, I would agree with what you say...

the negative feedback has been made on review centres, blogs by customers.






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Just a thought... Do you currently hold a top 10 spot for your chosen keywords? 'cos if you don't - going down this road will make it a lot harder for you to achieve that!

Personally I think that your aims are unreasonable - it's OK to want to get your site to #1 but to specifically want to "remove" other sites from top results is BH in it's intent... and imho the only way you will achieve it is with BH methods!

Split your content over multiple domains if you wish but - if it's a competitive market you would achieve much better results if it were all on one site.

Finally - if the only reason is because of negative feedback on those competitor sites my answer would be to get - and hold - the #1 position... never mind the rest; after all - if you are indisputably #1, the competition will knock you for any reason they can... so - if you dominate the serps it's much easier for you to convince readers that you also dominate your market... then the "negative feedback" could actually be seen as a positive!

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