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Old November 19th, 2009, 11:50 AM
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What I am referring to is, they are only building links to the home page, but using the sub-page key phrases.
They need to build links into ALL the main pages targeting the key phrase of the page.
This way G will rank each page for it's key phrase, right now they are trying to make the home page rank for all the key phrases!

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Old November 20th, 2009, 12:37 PM
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My first impression and YOUR own words ".... i am obsessed with seo'ing my website as best as i can".... Maybe you are too obsessed?? Make sure your "seo'ing" looks as natural as possible.

Give it some time...

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 12:35 PM
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Problems after optimization

Hi to you all !!

I have a question and I hope someone will share an experience or some knowledge.

This is the case:


Website has 9 years old domain.
Never optimized.
Ranking for 1 keyword on Google page 20.
All titles were the same, not optimized content, no internal linking, poor backlink profile...
bad Dynamic URL
All pages indexed.


10 days ago, the website got optimized.
.xml sitemap was submitet.
Content optimized on main pages.
Internal linking and link building will be done in near future.
Dynamic URLs are now rewritten.
301 redirect from old pages to new ones was made.


What I got as some kind of result from Google on this is:

Website is not present in first 20 Google pages for the keyword that was ranking there before.
1 URL is indexed through the .xml site map (I red about this, it will index more in next 6,7 days)



All I want to know is if I have done something wrong .. ?
Is this some kind of deleting old pages from Google index and adding new ones ?
When I search for the website in Google it's still there, so its not deleted from the index. When can I expect for new positioning in the SERPs?


Please give your comments on this.. every idea, help, or experience charing will be very very helpful for me.

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first thing I would suggest to look at on the blinds site:

1): Move blog from a subdomain to a subdirectory

Why on earth are you putting all your blog and article content onto a subdomain? You would get much more value out of this content if you kept it in the main domain and used subdirectories instead.

2): You have a bunch of content on the homepage with no links in it, rather than have words like "Replacement Blinds" just bolded turn them into links to the relevent deep page on your site. A link in content is way more relevent than a footer navigation one.
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301 redirect from old pages to new ones was made.



Give it some time for the 301's to shake through.

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Website is not present in first 20 Google pages for the keyword that was ranking there before.


Although this may seem bad, it makes no difference as you are the only one looking at the 20th page for the keyword. You have started on the road to get it higher than it was before.

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All I want to know is if I have done something wrong .. ?


Don't know for sure; probably not; but you have made a start which is the right thing to do. There are loads of articles to read on this site which will help enormously, so take your time - the search engines will.

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they have made me fully aware that they are building, relevant , non relevant and a mixed quality of links over a 'natural' perios of time 6 mnts, also my main links have not been built yet, that will be completed after the 6mnts


So, they are still building non-relevant poor quality links also, and the good links are coming later?

Dude...

Why are you throwing rocks in my calm blue ocean?

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Old November 24th, 2009, 02:46 AM
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So, they are still building non-relevant poor quality links also, and the good links are coming later?

Dude...

Why are you throwing rocks in my calm blue ocean?


well, the proof is in the pudding, my website after just 3months is already ranking page 1-5 for all 5 of my keywords ! These boys know their stuff, i have shown them this post, they get this all the time ! Google - tracksuits, sportsdirect are a client of justsearch, google - recliners or recliner chairs or leather recliners, reclinersdirect are no1, they are clients of justsearch. For the few on here who say thay quote 'dont have the time' for clients like me, thats absoloute rubbish, i am in daily contact with them and if someone is away from their desk etc i speak to another person working on my website, the setup at justsearch is great, and to get the feedback i do from them tells me everything. Im not stupid and 'they are certainly not, let me explain; i mean i didnt go into this with my eyes wide SHUT ! I did extensive research on their existing clients both small and large, and found that out of the 12 i spoke to on the phone, one of them had a very bad time, although whilst chatting away it became apparent that he cancelled all monthly payments as he did not get results within his first 3months. You cant beat word of mouth ! Secondly, i am a very good client to justsearch, i pay them £20,000PA and i am more than happy to double that next year provided i am on the first page for my keywords this year.

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well, the proof is in the pudding, my website after just 3months is already ranking page 1-5 for all 5 of my keywords ! These boys know their stuff, i have shown them this post, they get this all the time ! Google - tracksuits, sportsdirect are a client of justsearch, google - recliners or recliner chairs or leather recliners, reclinersdirect are no1, they are clients of justsearch. For the few on here who say thay quote 'dont have the time' for clients like me, thats absoloute rubbish, i am in daily contact with them and if someone is away from their desk etc i speak to another person working on my website, the setup at justsearch is great, and to get the feedback i do from them tells me everything. Im not stupid and 'they are certainly not, let me explain; i mean i didnt go into this with my eyes wide SHUT ! I did extensive research on their existing clients both small and large, and found that out of the 12 i spoke to on the phone, one of them had a very bad time, although whilst chatting away it became apparent that he cancelled all monthly payments as he did not get results within his first 3months. You cant beat word of mouth ! Secondly, i am a very good client to justsearch, i pay them £20,000PA and i am more than happy to double that next year provided i am on the first page for my keywords this year.


Not to disrespect you or Justsearch but "YOU" said you were nowhere in Google... isn't that the pudding proof?

Top in Bing is less than 10% of your potential market share (it's stands to reason that's an easy gig to do... at 40000 pound per year... I would expect some of Google 80% market share would be yours.

As for Justsearch and their word... they have an invested interest in telling you we are all scum SEOs and their client list is proof of their work... the fact is you yourself didn't go to them because of their "customers work" but because they were ranked #2 in Google...

Question to ask them ... Why aren't you?
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Not to disrespect you or Justsearch but "YOU" said you were nowhere in Google... isn't that the pudding proof?

Top in Bing is less than 10% of your potential market share (it's stands to reason that's an easy gig to do... at 40000 pound per year... I would expect some of Google 80% market share would be yours.

As for Justsearch and their word... they have an invested interest in telling you we are all scum SEOs and their client list is proof of their work... the fact is you yourself didn't go to them because of their "customers work" but because they were ranked #2 in Google...

Question to ask them ... Why aren't you?


To correct you, 'the proof in the pudding' is : when i started this post i was 'nowhere' on google, now i am Page 1 position 3 on bing.com and on im ranked pages 1 - 5 on GOOGLE for my chosen keywords, vertical blinds, venetian blinds, roller blinds and wooden blinds, blinds is page 7. Cheap vertical blinds - page 2, cheap venetian blinds - page 2, cheap roller blinds - page 2, cheap wooden blinds - page 2, cheap blinds - page 2, like i said 'the proof is in the pudding' my traffic has increased tenfold in the past week alone seeing my sales rocket ! thanks anyway

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To correct you, 'the proof in the pudding' is : when i started this post i was 'nowhere' on google, now i am Page 1 position 3 on bing.com and on im ranked pages 1 - 5 on GOOGLE for my chosen keywords, vertical blinds, venetian blinds, roller blinds and wooden blinds, blinds is page 7. Cheap vertical blinds - page 2, cheap venetian blinds - page 2, cheap roller blinds - page 2, cheap wooden blinds - page 2, cheap blinds - page 2, like i said 'the proof is in the pudding' my traffic has increased tenfold in the past week alone seeing my sales rocket ! thanks anyway


So your saying your now i am Page 1 position 3 on bing.com and on im ranked pages 1 - 5 on GOOGLE for my chosen keywords,

'the proof in the pudding'

the past week



The past year I would understand but the past week come on?????????

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So your saying your now i am Page 1 position 3 on bing.com and on im ranked pages 1 - 5 on GOOGLE for my chosen keywords,

'the proof in the pudding'

the past week



The past year I would understand but the past week come on?????????


i dont think you understand what i mean, justsearch have been optimising my website for just over 3months and it is only now i have started to get ranked, if you try typing in google my keywords as per above, you will too see this!

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i dont think you understand what i mean, justsearch have been optimising my website for just over 3months and it is only now i have started to get ranked, if you try typing in google my keywords as per above, you will too see this!


Hi Orion,

I do understand its just ranking can go up and down Orion poor links can give your site a boost for a while and then it can drop back to where it was or lower, strong trusted editorial links will stabilize your ranking in the serps so I'm saying you need to see how your site stabilizes over time........


Are your links strong trusted editorial links????????

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Hi Orion,

I do understand its just ranking can go up and down Orion poor links can give you site a boost for a while and then it can drop back to where it was or lower, strong trusted editorial link will stabilize your ranking in the serp so I'm saying you need to see how your site stabilizes........

Also links should be permanent in nature otherwise your ranking will not be stable.

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Thats fine sounds like you have the staff memebers who know there stuff, and they have actually performed for you.

It isnt always tjhe case with this company, and you were not convinced 2 weeks ago.

I wouldn't be too excited about there results 3 months for those kinda results with that kinda spend is expected.

You need to expect front page for all your keywords within 6 months in your niche, for you spend, and be looking at top 3 positions within 12.

This is not a difficult market sector; there links were crappy but they were good enough for this market sector.

Also give them an you a break, get off the phone with them, every day, talk once a week thats all that needed. It will save you time and them time.

As for the results you talk about apart from the number 2 for SEO nothing to get excited about at all.

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well, the proof is in the pudding, my website after just 3months is already ranking page 1-5 for all 5 of my keywords ! These boys know their stuff, i have shown them this post, they get this all the time ! Google - tracksuits, sportsdirect are a client of justsearch, google - recliners or recliner chairs or leather recliners, reclinersdirect are no1, they are clients of justsearch. For the few on here who say thay quote 'dont have the time' for clients like me, thats absoloute rubbish, i am in daily contact with them and if someone is away from their desk etc i speak to another person working on my website, the setup at justsearch is great, and to get the feedback i do from them tells me everything. Im not stupid and 'they are certainly not, let me explain; i mean i didnt go into this with my eyes wide SHUT ! I did extensive research on their existing clients both small and large, and found that out of the 12 i spoke to on the phone, one of them had a very bad time, although whilst chatting away it became apparent that he cancelled all monthly payments as he did not get results within his first 3months. You cant beat word of mouth ! Secondly, i am a very good client to justsearch, i pay them £20,000PA and i am more than happy to double that next year provided i am on the first page for my keywords this year.

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