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Old August 10th, 2008, 04:26 PM
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Top and bottom horizontal navs

I want a site to have a horizontal navigation menu both at the top and the bottom of the page. Since I don't want this menu to be situated at the top of the HTML for SEO purposes, I've put the top nav last in the HTML and used absolute positioning to move it to the top of the page.

However, in putting another horizontal nav at the bottom of the page I now have two sets of the same links adjacent to each other in the HTML. Will I be penalized for duplicate content? Does their proximity to each other in the HTML matter, or will I be penalized for having a duplicate set of links no matter where they are?

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I want a site to have a horizontal navigation menu both at the top and the bottom of the page. Since I don't want this menu to be situated at the top of the HTML for SEO purposes, I've put the top nav last in the HTML and used absolute positioning to move it to the top of the page.

However, in putting another horizontal nav at the bottom of the page I now have two sets of the same links adjacent to each other in the HTML. Will I be penalized for duplicate content? Does their proximity to each other in the HTML matter, or will I be penalized for having a duplicate set of links no matter where they are?


Penalized - no definitely not!
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Is there any other results from this ? dilusion of pr ?

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having teh sam elinks in the top and bottom of teh page wont hurt.

I am not in tune with PR enough to say whether it will affect its passage between pages but my logic tells em that if one link passes x and two links pas x/2 then if those two links point at teh same page then the page is still getting x pr.
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Is there any other results from this ? dilusion of pr ?


Whether there is or isn't isn't "usually a problem" - it is presumed that the links on a main nav bar are to "important pages"... so if dilution is a factor it's putting link juice where it is needed the most and if not the point is moot.

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Is there any other results from this ? dilusion of pr ?


Whether there is or isn't isn't "usually a problem" - it is presumed that the links on a main nav bar are to "important pages"... so if dilution is a factor it's putting link juice where it is needed the most and if not the point is moot.


...if pages like contact us or policy pages are part of the main nav... it's a good idea to rel="nofollow" those links.

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