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Three Rules For Great SEO - The Truth About Google

Been doing seo for quite some time, mostly adult webcams.

Just wanted to share a thought with you:

Many webmasters complain about google bouncing their websites up and down the serps and come here with thousands of reasons from content quality to backlinks, etc.

Many guru's try to respond, telling them this that...

In my humble opinion seo is very simple if you think about it.

1. google judges your site looking at other sites similar to yours

The best example is the adult industry where we are all doing ABC, ABCD, etc. link exchanges. If some mainstream guru's were right, all the adult websites would be in trouble. Guess what... this isn't happening.

Why? Simple - google has to list adult sites with junk seo. He will try and pick the best ones from a big pile of cra...p

This is why, a weather site with high bounce rate will rank well. Google won't compare it to a literature site

Tip: look at your competitors and do better

2. Google will list constantly on 1st page just a few sites with high authority - he will shuffle the rest of the results


Just think about it! On any query you will see 2-3 sites which stick, offering reliable info. The other will always shuffle because google always needs other content.

If you have 10 sites, 3 will do goog, 4 medium, 3 badly. In a months time you will notice maybe the bad ones doing better than the better ones and so on.

Why does google do this? If he didn't, it would become a directory

To sum up this long and maybe controversial post, just do this things if you are serious about earning money online:

1. Compare your site with the ones in your niche
2. Find out their SEO strategy and do better not necessarily different, just better and more
3. Build lots of sites - don't put all your eggs in one basket!

This is very simple. Just follow the KISS system.

Keep it simple silly not stupid

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Enjoyed reading your post. In my 40+ years of running companies, from startups to very large corporations, I have run into many like you pushing the KISS principle. Their answers and solutions are usually simple, but wrong. You are no exception... Go back to running your porn sites.

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Just curious. How do you know Google is a "he" and not she?
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An interesting post… Thanks for sharing.

You are correct I think in the observation that Google treats different types of sites differently. My first SEOing had a lot to do with the adult industry way back in the day (Mid to late 1990s). From what you say here it does not seem like that much has changed for that specific industry. I have no current knowledge of that industry (And I Never look… lol) so I will take your word for it that what you are doing still works for adult sites.

However your advice should not be taken as good advice for non adult sites competing in competitive markets. The strategy outlined by you above will not work. I s’pose it is still a link thing. Adult sites struggle to get decent links therefore Google needs to use different criteria to return results when adult terms are searched.

I was thinking a while ago a good stratergy for developing an adult themed site woild be to start of with a site that had adult themed informational material ie aids research. Attract/create high quality content on this site and gain a collection of decent links. Then once the site is established add an adult section to the site. This section should kill the SERPs…

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seo for sites that use all 4 letter key words

You are comparing rotten apples to fresh oranges. Your adult industry is working on a hand full of vile 4 letter words.

A real estate Website has location specific to an advantage,

An appliance parts web site has five appliance types and a million part numbers with about 30 categories of parts for each appliance, the frig, range, washer, dryer, dishwasher.

I will agree with you we both have categories;
1. Appliance Parts or SEX
2.Appliance Type or sexual preference
3.Parts categories, fantasy categories

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I agree if I were to post an adult site I would post content on all kinds of articles and information in the medical field relating to sex, the evaluation of std's sexual habits starting with the Roman era, all from a doctors standpoint. No one reads most of the content on websites any way, google does though, that's all that matters. Every one else looks for the image and the buy now button. If some one was going to do an adult site on your content strategy it would be easy to hit the first page in search results.

I was discussing what to put in alt tags on images and my friend said chrome and the new browsers don't display them, I shot back who cares if the person on your site sees them, GOOGLE reads all!!

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An interesting post... Thanks for sharing.

You are correct I think in the observation that Google treats different types of sites differently. My first SEOing had a lot to do with the adult industry way back in the day (Mid to late 1990s). From what you say here it does not seem like that much has changed for that specific industry. I have no current knowledge of that industry (And I Never look... lol) so I will take your word for it that what you are doing still works for adult sites.

However your advice should not be taken as good advice for non adult sites competing in competitive markets. The strategy outlined by you above will not work. I s'pose it is still a link thing. Adult sites struggle to get decent links therefore Google needs to use different criteria to return results when adult terms are searched.

I was thinking a while ago a good stratergy for developing an adult themed site woild be to start of with a site that had adult themed informational material ie aids research. Attract/create high quality content on this site and gain a collection of decent links. Then once the site is established add an adult section to the site. This section should kill the SERPs...

Anyway thanks for sharing...

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Ty for the replies guy.
What I want to point out is that the discussion wasn't about adult sites. It was just an example.

The important things IMHO are the observations I was talking about:
1. google judges your site looking at other sites similar to yours

2. Google will list constantly on 1st page just a few sites with high authority - IT will shuffle the rest of the results
Why does google do this? If IT didn't, it would become a directory

These 2 simple thoughts explain many issues concerning SEO.

PS - I was not saying SEO is not complex.
I believe there are a few simple rules that apply and the complexity starts when you start to obey them. The complexity is in day 2 day seo

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What I want to point out is that the discussion wasn't about adult sites. It was just an example.

The important things IMHO are the observations I was talking about:
1. google judges your site looking at other sites similar to yours

2. Google will list constantly on 1st page just a few sites with high authority - IT will shuffle the rest of the results
Why does google do this? If IT didn't, it would become a directory

These 2 simple thoughts explain many issues concerning SEO.

PS - I was not saying SEO is not complex.
I believe there are a few simple rules that apply and the complexity starts when you start to obey them. The complexity is in day 2 day seo
I understood your first post to be about SERPs in general. I stick by my first post, i.e. you really do not understand SEO and its complexities... This being the case, your comments and conclusions comes from a non-SEO amateur. Case closed.

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I understood your first post to be about SERPs in general. I stick by my first post, i.e. you really do not understand SEO and its complexities... This being the case, your comments and conclusions comes from a non-SEO amateur. Case closed.


Documented opinions and contra arguments would have been better IMO

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Documented opinions and contra arguments would have been better IMO
Your initial comments are so far from the truth, there is no point in debating whether your opinions have any validity. For SEOs to debate with you would be like a French chef (SEOs) debating recipes (effective SEO methods) with a McDonalds fry cook (a non-SEO site owner). True, they both prepare food (work on websites), but all similarity stops there.

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Your initial comments are so far from the truth


True - there's a lot that's incorrect in that post, but it does have one valid element that I think deserves recognition.

Google has been known to treat different search results differently. Industries like poker and adult websites are notorious for their spammy link efforts. What might receive huge penalties in "respectable" search results may not in these cases, since everyone is doing it, and Google can't penalize every website that their visitors want to see.

However, that doesn't mean SEO fundamentals are going to change in these industries. In fact, it gives you even more of an opportunity to shoot past your competition by doing better than them with SEO fundamentals.

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Your initial comments are so far from the truth, there is no point in debating whether your opinions have any validity. For SEOs to debate with you would be like a French chef (SEOs) debating recipes (effective SEO methods) with a McDonalds fry cook (a non-SEO site owner). True, they both prepare food (work on websites), but all similarity stops there.


I see, well I sometimes like a big mac

What's wrong with this?
Google judges your site looking at other sites similar to yours?

This is the idea, analyze your niche, see what competitors are doing, analyze the trends and try to do better.

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Yo Sexy... You are fighting a losing battle. Do some research, reading, and studying of SEO, not just here, before you make anymore general statements of what you believe to be true within the SERPs.

I am truly trying to be kind... Please!!!

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I see, well I sometimes like a big mac

What's wrong with this?
Google judges your site looking at other sites similar to yours?

This is the idea, analyze your niche, see what competitors are doing, analyze the trends and try to do better.


One thing is true: Google puts sites linking with other adult sites in the same drawer. But since search volume for mature audience is so huge, it does really not matter.

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